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Anti-fundamentalist George Noory Makes A Fool of Himself Again

November 17, 2012 Comments off

A snippet of a conversation from Coast to Coast AM tonight:

Betsey Lewis: I believe the Miracle of Fatima was a UFO mother ship.

George: I do too.

BL: You do?

George: (With the tone of someone clearly caught of guard): Yes, miracle or not if that were the sun coming down, I don’t care what, the sun would have burned everyone alive.

No, George wasn’t joking, he was caught off guard by Betsy (unintentionally) making another one of his careless agreements with guests, and I do mean CARE-less, meaning he didn’t care what was coming out of his mouth except to as he always does, sound friendly, wise and fill in air time till he got to the end of the show. His response was so strange that I’m not sure anymore if George is a conartist, as in makes up arbitrary lies or really believes angels or angelic events are really aliens. The comment besides being silly and childish, was also nonsensical: a miracle is supernatural, so if the sun were really brought down, obviously God could have prevented it from burning anyone, and had it come down the whole world would have known. If he did believe it was a UFO, why did he struggle to respond and make such a foolish response? Was it because she said “mothership” rather than simply a UFO? But if that is why, why didn’t he do the adult thing and say, “Well not a mothership, it might have been, but I have no way, sorry about that”?

George often agrees with guests including callers no matter what absurd thing they say. One example was a show in which a guest was on who claimed to be a former military person who was in contact with the Grays, aliens, and helped one escape. A caller called in with some nonsensical question or claim that Soviets had put secret spywear on American hard drives (which had nothing to do with the topic) and George replied to the caller with a strong emphatic agreement, and obviously hadn’t listen to the bizarre rant, and then asked the x-military guy, “What do you think?” And that x-military guy was making sense during the whole show, even if the story was fake, and wasn’t someone like Noory, sloppily winging it. George is one of the most unprofessional workers I’ve ever known in life, it’s no wonder he gets no prestigious worldly awards of any kind, like the Marconi or a Nobel for peace. The day he does will be a shameful day for the world, and I would bet would provoke God to move swiftly and furiously.

But he was caught off guard by this Betsy “Leaps of Logic New Ager” Lewis. George wasn’t joking either, he was giving a serious reply. This is how UNWISE this man is, that despite having been taught the Bible’s wisdom to be careful when listening and with your speech at a young age, and being surrounded with its wisdom and people everyday, that after decades and decades of being immersed in the world, having chosen to live life as a casual entertainment experience rather than a serious and precious gift given by God, still decides to behave and think like a child. Yes, George has the voice of an adult male, and can pull off some very witty replies, but those are rare moments, the rest of him is stunted and shallow.

Sometimes I wonder if George is a narcissist, as in truly mentally ill. He seems to have a “hankering for questions” as the Bible puts it, yet he’s a pandering liar who in my opinion cares more about money that truly knowing anything, or perhaps neither are mutually exclusive. I remember on the show he once asked someone, “Do you truly want to know (how they built the pyramids)” because he enjoyed the mystery and would no longer care if he found out, I think he was asking the narcissist Richard C. Hoagland.

Update 12-20-2012: A new bizarre phrase for agreement from George: George was doing open lines and a foreigner called in at the end and started talking about how aliens are coming from such and such planet and that it takes them 24 minutes to get to Earth, to which George replied, “That’s not bad at all.”

Signs Noory is a narcissist:

1) Conniving/cruel and immature: his enjoyment of wasting time and enjoying the mockery of fundamentalist Christians via J.C.’s mockery (the guest caller who seems to pretend to be a fundamentalist Christian without ever saying if he’s pretending to be a mentally ill and/or stupid one, or if that is how he thinks they all are, let alone admit to pretending at all,

2) Shallow: for example his repeatedly having on extremely shallow guests like “Glynnis Mccants, the numbers lady”, that stupid sun coming down and burning everyone comment and his fixation with John Titor), talks about his opinions often after having said he never gives his opinions because listeners don’t listen to the show to hear his, but the guests’ (wow, try saying guests’), uses something that is nearly a neologism, “dimensional” by misdefining (by the way he uses it) as apparently (to me at least) “Not regularly seen because they are from an unseeable dimension” (yet George never explains what he means by “dimensional”. He also repeatedly, and I mean repeatedly, says that “people these days are acting weird” and “strange”, but doesn’t say in what way,. or when they never were acting that way? And sometimes also pairs that with “people sense something is coming”, like another earthquake, a tsunami, a mass murder, another war, and that matters because? And who can’t figure out yet another disaster is coming?

3) Arbitrary: agrees that the universe was created, which would require an all powerful all knowing God, doesn’t believe in the Big Bang or evolution, yet readily reads mainstream scientology articles claiming such and such is billions (or millions) of years old, starting out stating it like this at times, “Scientists have discovered the bones of a 30 million year old” or “Scientists have found the oldest galaxy, 12 billion years old” as if it’s a fact that these scientists are right, never giving a disclaimer that what he reads he doesn’t necessarily believes

4) Vain: keeps injecting his worthless opinions, uses the cheap shot of condemning murderers and “pedophiles” in order to make himself look morally superior. When he says “pedophiles” he means “child molesters”, which shows more of his disingenuous concern for people, as that word simply means kid-lover or sexually attracted to kids”, and by condemning that all as being such, risks their lives, because there are many people who are also vain and self-righteous, who are willing to become a murderer (and George even stated his approval of murdering a pedophile) if they believe someone to be a pedophile. He also says he would never forgive someone who murdered someone of his own family, yet never sees it from the other side: would he forgive his own kin if they murdered someone else, who necessarily was the kin of someone else’s family? And such lack of an obvious thought shows again him to be arbitrary (picking his own family as important, but not someone else’s and not considering exceptions at all for forgiving a murderer) and shallow. If that doesn’t do it enough for you (and vanity is the key sign of a narcissist), perhaps you might remember hearing George, at least twice, saying he would not quit hosting Coast to Coast AM and would continue till he was dead. No doubt to me that would not help the national suicide rate in the long run, especially not hearing George shrink dumber over time, think slower, and talking with a raspy phlegmy voice, and seeing his prune face on the Coast homepage for the next (I hope not) 50 years. My guess is America won’t exist anymore by then anyways.

5) Hypocritical: George claims to be a Catholic, which whether he likes it or not is a type of Christian, a false one, but regardless, a Christian is supposed to forgive and love everyone (until perhaps Judgment Day, when all Christians would reach moral perfection and so would no longer be hypocritical in any way).

6) Lying and exaggerating: George repeatedly embellishes the reputation of the liar and narcissist Richard C. Hoagland, and it seems to me that he pretends that John Titor was time traveler, if he’s not pretending then he’s truly gullible and stupid (and being gullible) is another sign of narcissism). There is a clip on YouTube of George lying to a caller about being psychic.

7) Gullible: George, though not falling easily or at all for global warming, vaccines, world government aspirations, the belief that being a police officer or scientist makes you necessarily honest/good, does fall for the claim that Earth is millions and billions of years old without bothering to see if those dating methods are correct, although he did have on a few creationists, and one recently, and supported him a little at first, but when his guest Giorgio Tsoukolous said that it was crazy to believe the universe was 6,000 years old (which is short by about 500 years by the way) he agreed with him (once again his agreeing with whatever and his pandering). See sign 6 too.

8) Rambling ranting/talking over others often: This isn’t necessarily the sign of a narcissist I think, but if it’s there it is an additional piece of evidence. George sometimes talks over guests, but usually doesn’t, and when he does he immediately stops. As for ranting or rambling or both, this is the most difficult to find sign about George, because, though being vain, he does amazing to me, allow guests to go on and on. However he did publish a book, supposedly by himself, something about dead people, which I would bet contains plenty of ranting. This isn’t always a sign of a narcissist.

9) Hatred of criticism against oneself: George actually stated during his show that people shouldn’t criticize him if they dislike what he says.

10) Violent outbursts: I only know of one moment where George, unprofessionally, had not just a violent outburst, but to me, a cranky sounding one, in which he rebuked Richard C. Hoagland for not allowing Zubrin, another guest, to talk. It would have been mature if George had simply and gently said when Richard did it the first or second time, to stop, instead George allowed it to go on for a long while, which made him responsible in way for Richard’s rambling. It may be that George is able to control his anger well because he is wealthy, and is able to satisfy himself mostly from his wealth, and with millions of listeners is able to get the high he wants. The Bible makes it clear that people like George are violent inside however.

11) Hatred of work: George once asked someone how anyone could live on minimum wage and working long hours, the way he stated it he made it sound as if he couldn’t believe people could exist like that without starting a war or killing themselves or just dropping dead after living like that for a while. The appropriate mature response would have been to praise hard working people and condemn the rich who are stingy with their workers, and say that he wishes he could somehow help.

12) Stingy with the poor/detesting the poor: George once said he saw someone who seemed to be grieved over the amount of money they had to spend on gas, implying or describing them as struggling or poor I think, but gave no indication of having helped this person, despite himself being obviously wealthy. I remember this one because someone made this point on the Internet somewhere. It’s not hard to imagine that George hates most of his listeners, being that he pulls off obvious and boring deceptions almost every night with his show and by having put out a needless book about life after death, as if he were a scholar or expert on the subject, he isn’t, or even had good stories to listen to, but he doesn’t.

13) Narcissists often are in high up job positions because they use flattery and pandering to get there (which anyone can see/hear George does often).

14) Immature: There is a clip on YouTube of George lying to a caller about being psychic, his violent outburst, his obsession with John Titor, his having extremely shallow people as regular guests including J.C., his playing the UFO Phil song at the end of his shows, whic is a very horrid and immature-sounding song, not being professional by trying to follow up on guests with interesting and potentially ground-breaking stories let alone simply asking where the event being spoken of took place (which could also count as being arbitrary and lazy/hating work).

I’m not saying that George never tells the truth, is never mature, has never done a little or a lot of hard work, but as Jesus and anyone would say, liberal or conservative, slave or free, black or white, that when a person does these things regularly, they are these things. Not everyone is willing to point them out, for fear or retaliation or being wrong or out of hatred for God, but I have no problem with it, since I fear God more than men.

These are all the basic signs of a narcissist, and George fits them all well enough for me, so after having wondered for a long time, I now safely conclude he is a narcissist, and should be treated as one, meaning, someone to avoid listening to. Listening to narcissists can destroy appropriate pride, a healthy judgment of yourself, self-esteem I suppose you can call that, which leads to depression and violence and can even cause narcissism in youths.

“Know this, my beloved brothers: let every person be quick to hear, slow to speak, slow to anger” – James 1:19

“The tongue of the wise presents knowledge appropriately, but fools belch foolishness.” – Proverbs

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A Letter to Dr. Jason Braithwaite

October 29, 2012 Leave a comment

To Dr. Braithwaite (and Fortean author Nick Redfern),

I study logical fallacies, not sure if that is your field since you say you’re a lecturer in cog psych as opposed to philosophy. I also study theology and psychology, specifically anti-social personality disorders, I teach those subjects too. I noticed in what seems to be an old version of your Seven Fallacies of Thought article you saying that science it he most openminded of knowledge systems. There’s a problem with that statement, which perhaps you realized and so removed, but in case it for some reason was still there and wasn’t being found I’ll explain why (and this is also meant for Nick Redfern whom I listened to on Coast to Coast AM, listened to him say that we should always be open to things that are contrary to what we believe):

It’s a fallacy to think you should be open minded to anything, it’s related to the fallacy that there is no absolute truth, that you can never reach truth and so should never commit to a belief being 100% true. In fact mainstream science is logically fallacious (and you saying that demonstrated partly why) because the philosophy of it (which is only exposed when its proponents are caught in an error despite using “science”) is that “we’re still learning” aka “still improving” in other words always endlessly learning and “correcting when needed” which is a bait and switch phrase for, “you can never have the absolute truth but must keep searching” aka “be open minded”. Now suppose that is just a bad fall back mainstream scientists make and that MAINSTREAM science (which is illogically referred to them as simply, “science” (no offense)), and that really it’s not about being open minded to no end, but, as its proponents say, about hypothesizing, experimenting, verifying (and adding to the knowledge of science), that may be so, but the problem is they inject their own bias and additional philosophy into it, hence, making it so called, “Mainstream” (in other words “mainstream” has come to mean,

“Belief that science cannot verify the existence of God, that the big bang is true, abiogenesis (whatever it may be) is true, Darwinian evolution specifically is true (not other evolution theories even if they don’t rely on a god or God or alien), that relativity is true and anyone who says they are not is not a true scientist or is less trustworthy than an ms scientist and is illogical or ignorant of the facts or delusional.”

It’s a well known fact among the world that that is what mainstreamers believe, or at least state openly in various ways so as to shield themselves from attack and persecution from their “peers” or those who believe things contrary to that biased philosophy.

So, it’s wrong in that many of its members at the very least, deny absolute truth when caught in mistakes, and for the other reasons I stated, and those other reasons are wrong for various obvious reasons which I won’t explain, because they are obvious or can be easily looked up (I made it easier by making a portal for that at https://eternian.wordpress.com/evidence): experiments that contradict the claims that the universe is older than 6,500 years, living fossils, data that contradicts the big bang, contradictions in relativity, biblical prophecy (which is verifiable scientifically as is archeology and psychology, the whole bible is scientifically verifiable in various ways as are the whole of facts of archeology and psychology, though they may not be a single book or a few similar versions as the Bible is conveniently).

As you probably already know, but in case don’t, or forget, you shouldn’t be open to anything, but only that which is in agreement with the facts, with truth, and with what is logical. So if someone says, “Be open minded that 2+2=4 is false” it’s not something to consider, and for me, if someone says, “Be open to (MAINSTREAM) science being superior to any other way of obtaining knowledge of what is true or false real and not real, I automatically know that is false, because it’s a bait and switch: mainstreamers are the ones who usually say that, and they mean MAINSTREAM science, not simply “science” and make another bait and switch fallacy by confusing the meaning of the word science even further, by meaning both “the method” and “the field of knowledge obtained by science” which are two entirely different things. The method has nothing to do with “You can’t prove God with science”, and even the field of science itself has no say on that, it’s just an accumulation of knowledge put together in some way. It’s not some single book magically kept one way by some mainstreamer or mainstreamers so that there are no other science-based knowledge that says, “God has been shown to exist by various characteristics of the universe, for example the instinctive knowledge of living things is knowledge that can be deduced through thought experiments showing that such knowledge must have been deliberately created rather than by chance (etc)…”.

A person’s mind should only be open to a thing being true (meaning, willing to consider a thing as being true) if they don’t have any knowledge which is plainly true that contradicts that thing being true. For example is someone said, “Be open to an all powerful, all knowing, perfectly logical, loving and vengeful being called ‘Yahweh’ and who is also called ‘God’, exists,” to someone who has no clear facts that an all powerful, all knowing, perfectly logical, loving and vengeful being, ‘God’ exists.

If we are not closed-minded to that which is clearly false, then we would be opening ourselves to the endless learning of the same things over and over again, no matter how simple and obvious or vexing, like “one plus one equals two” or that “deliberate abuse of and murdering little kids is immoral/not good/evil” or some particular crime that was plainly a crime because everyone saw the act committed (and yet the criminal repeatedly appeals to everyone to “have an open mind that he really didn’t commit a crime and that the crime was just an illusion, and that the blood that was spilled on the ground was fake, and that no one died and was buried, and that all the witnesses and investigators are imagining things, and the photos and videos even are false). If that is true, then there really is no point in going to get water to quench your thirst, because your thirst could be just as false as true, and water just as much existing as not; life would be a confusing mess and the pursuit of anything all like trying to accomplish something in a dream: futile.

Daniel

16 Reasons America Is Falling Apart

Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation.
And a house divided against a house falls. …
For from now on, there shall be five in one house divided,
three against two, and two against three.
Luke 11:17, 12:52

And if a house is divided against itself,
that house cannot stand.

Mark 3:25

1) Christianity in America is polluted with New Ageism, Arminianism and Liberalism or antiTrinitarian nonsense (which leads to polytheism nonsense). More than half the Christians have minds heavily polluted with logical fallacies that come from those three isms. Mormonism is polluted with Freemasonry and Occultism. The country is divided between a huge number of different types of Christians therefore, as in with different moral standards and interpretations of basic Bible scriptures. These false Christians also drain America’s money, especially using the tithing heresy, which is that Christians are to give a tenth of their income to their church (or whoever these false Christians make seem is the most worthy to get the tithe). Much of that donated money goes to either more advertising for more tithes or donations of other types, spreading their false version of Christianity and into their personal banks.

Many liberals are anti-science New Agers who drain America’s money by duping people or convincing them that New Age beliefs are right and traditional Christianity (the Reformed/Calvinistic type) is wrong. Because of this there is moral confusion as to right from wrong, and where there is moral confusion there are psychopaths and narcissists who will be raised up and who will multiply endlessly, and often getting into leadership positions (including parental) and in those positions, can do extreme damage, including mass murder.

2) Psychopaths and narcissists are becoming more and more common in America. They are one of the main reasons America is being ruined. A huge number of them are in prisons all over America (and the world) and everyone is being taxed to death because of it.

They are entrenched in many jobs, including leadership positions. Clinton and Obama are narcissists even and yet many Americans love and support them. They should be permanently enslaved and put to hard labor. The ones that committed crimes for sure in adulthood, and who do so for pleasure, should be fed poorly and made to do something useful like de-ice Greenland or mine dangerous mines and the things they mine out sold and the profit given over to orphanages or kids who need money to survive.

Any beautiful ones should be cloned and the clones raised lovingly so that they don’t turn out like their “parent”. Yes, I said cloned. Why? Because a loss of beauty from the human gene pool is a terrible thing. Also, the less genes there are to go around, the more like mass deaths might occur from people who lack immunity to withstand them. Yes, you just read that. Next:

There should be a standardized test given to everyone who applies for employment, to determine whether or not they are a psychopath (psych) or narcissist (narc), and if they fail, should be monitored from outside their property (no snooping unless evidence of a crime is committed) and any friends of family of theirs questioned to determine the personality of that person, and if good evidence comes up that they are a psych or narc, should be imprisoned until any change in their personality shows they are neither. Instead, the p’s and n’s are allowed to roam freely so long as they don’t commit any obvious crime, and so create all kinds of damage or stir up anger, which leads to mental illnesses or trauma and Hellish arguments that lead to crime.

3) America’s legal system accepts a single witness as sufficient to make an ACCUSATION despite no corroboration of the same event as EVIDENCE, a clear violation of common sense and a violation of the principle of the Declaration of Independence’s “right to pursue happiness”. You can’t pursue happiness if GOSSIP is entertained and accepted by law. It’s also hypocritically since “hearsay” is rejected, yet direct one person accusation testimony isn’t, why is one acceptable and the other not?! Nonsense logic.

4) Atheists and anti-Christians have gained a strong propaganda position for decades by having hijacked public schools and their history, literature and science textbooks and have made America in the eyes of hundreds of millions appear to be better off secular and made it appear as if those “founding fathers” including the Pilgrims, who left Britain, did so merely for “freedom of religion” rather than FREEDOM IN CHRIST. And they made it appear as if The Theory of Evolution was based on science, that science is the only way to know the truth, and that science and freedom to say and practice whatever religion or philosophy you want is what makes America great. Doing whatever you want is not what makes anything great, nor can people do whatever they want religiously: you aren’t allowed to murder in the name of some religion. To teach these things causes confusion about history and moral degredation.

5) In the liberal media, atheists and anti-Christians have made it appear as if “going with your heart” is also good, or the best thing to do, but that if you are a conservative and go against liberalism, evolution dogma or big bang dogma, that that’s bad. So multiple contradictions there which causes massive confusion and conflict among Americans, and anyone trying to reason with them.

6) The atheists and anti-Christians have successfully duped hundreds of millions of Americans every 20 years into giving up much of their money for secular education, in public schools, colleges and universities, forcing them to memorize their Darwin-and liberal/libertine-based dogma and to pander to those who are it’s main pushers in order to “get ahead” in life / make more money that the average person, not be poor, and to live comfortably. This causes moral degradation and leads to people caring more about money and pleasure than the truth, truth which leads to eternal peace and truth.

7) Atheists have polluted the Internet with many copycat pages of logical fallacy lists which Google, the most popular search engine, puts at the top of their search results, and of course these atheists have given these logical fallacy lists an anti-theism spin, deceiving millions every year into thinking that theism and religion is illogical, or of not deceiving, reinforcing existing deception. This causes moral degradation and confusion as to what logic is.

8) Bankers, clearly anti-Christian ones, the ones who manage billions of dollars, have used ursury to profit off of the world, and by doing so have helped drive everyone into debt. The Bible forbids ursury, and by not listening to the Bible, they have caused everyone to become desperate for money and comfort rather than allowing them to use their mental energies to focus on what matters more: pleasing God and getting eternal peace. So this too causes moral and economic degredation. Bankers now are known to have come with all kinds of evil schemes to steal money from others, even from other banks.

9) Celebrities, who are living idols, they by their example of lead America into going along with the bankers, atheists, liberals and anti-Christians. Youths, who are ignorant at first, are easily lead astray by those who are beautiful, powerful and who get the most attention. So celebrities have caused moral degredation.

10) Game designers have polluted the world with godless or anti-theistic, violent games, which male youths especially love, so they too have spread moral degredation.

11) The rich of the world have both sat on their money at the hurt of the poor and needy and used it to gain more money, and help the anti-Christians and liberals to continue propspering as a group, so that they can continue to dupe them into thinkng that it’s best to buy from their businesses and the anti-Christians and liberals, who are people who are immoral and arbitrary and wasteful with money.

12) As mentioned in the previous entry, the Federal and state governments of America have been stuffing jails and prisons with anyone and everyone for any reason, and police, especially in certain states, like New Mexico and Nevada, have been abusing their position of authority to retaliate, slander, libel and arrest people for disrespecting them or not pandering to them. This has an obvious destructive effect on the economy and morality as it provokes hostility towards those who are supposed to be upholding the laws of the country, not disregarding them.

13) This 12th reason, which is mentioned in the Bible, at least indirectly, is prostitution. Prostitution, as the Bible says, spreads crime. Just use yoru imagination to figure out why it works at that way, or go read why. Prostituion, for example, leads to higher rates of abortion. Abortion is murder, and the more you murder (if you have a conscience), the more you want to forget you’ve murdered. The usual way for a prostitute to try and forget is alcohol or some hard drug, like meth or crack, and overuse of alcohol and those drugs, which is common, leads to criminal acts and accidentally or in the heat of anger od desperation for more drugs, killing others. It also makes prostitutes vulnerable to rape, and of course prostites are more likely to be raped then not being that they are seen as near worthless except, logically, for sex.

14) The more abortions, the less competitive a nation is against other nations. Though the atheist nations China, Russia and Vietnam have a much higher abortion rates than the USA, so much higher that have a major male to female ration problem (which eventually leads to wars both internally and externally due to frustrated men or women) they make up for it with their superior resources, underground child labor, and greater use of their natural resources (unlike America, which locks up vast amounts of them in national forests like Yellowstone). Those countries also don’t have massive amount of their population imprisoned, and so have a larger work force. That is why, despite America’s large popular and figuratively speaking, limitless natural resources, it is losing against Russia and China. Consider: how many Tesla’s have their been in America’s history, or world history? Is it helping by aborting over 10 million babies a year? It’s a fact that extreme genius is often natural, like the ability to dance or sing well. Even if the abortions leave more resources for already existing geniuses to be able to be as helpful as Tesla, where are they then? Where are the super inventors? Where is even a Henry Ford? Clearly abortion kills not just babies, but the nation the they are killed in. The point, is that without these super innovators to come along ever few decades, that there will be technological stagnation, which helps to increase stress and frustration. With an expanding population, speedier technologies need to be created, otherwise information and help is delayed to the point where there are great losses, including life, and that causes resentment, and eventually the resentment, if not appeased, boils over into fighting, and if the fighting isn’t stopped, it leads to battles, and if the battles are not stopped, it leads to wars, and when war happens, the country is no longer a single country, but two new countries.

15) Physical health problems are everywhere in America. It’s as if they were covered with plagues. It’s a country filled with diseased people, cancer ridden people and very obese people and people who have a greatly reduced ability to work for various reasons, like meth or alcohol addiction, missing limbs, defective brains, or chronic fatigue caused by chronic depression or chemical poisoning from the water, air or prescription drugs with damaging side effects.

16) The Iraq War, aka Operation Iraqi Freedom and Afghanistan War aka Operation Enduring Freedom, besides having resulted in a loss of millions of lives, lives who were attacked without a just cause (not including God’s causes), for example the little Iraqi children who had nothing to do with the Iraq War except for being in Iraq, but have also cost America approximately 6 trillion dollars. The Chinese loan us money, we go into debt, and those who make the weapons of mass destruction, who drill for and supply the oil, and make the vehicles for transport and war, and who provide the drink and food, and the soldiers, they make money, but does it benefit America in general? No it doesn’t, because those profiting from the war are less than five percent of America, even when you include all the American employees of these companies that help the wars to continue. Yes, that less than five percent spends money on restaurants in America, grocery stores, and so on, but those who make the most money sit on it and many of them invest in foreign companies, not American. And they sit on their wealth so that they can take pride in being among the richest. Billions of dollars sit in banks, making bankers wealthy too, who also sit on their money to the hurt of everyone else. Sitting on millions and billions is like sitting on expensive goods and not using them. It doesn’t do anyone any good, not even the one sitting on them. It’s an act of hate, not love, to hoard wealth.

“The love of money is the root of all evil” – The apostle Paul

“A house divided against itself cannot stand” – Yeshua, the only Son of God

“because of lawlessness the love of many will grow cold” – – Yeshua, who is God

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A Resonating Insight Into Negative New Age Positivity

March 17, 2012 2 comments

To Tina Fiorda and Tilde Cameron:

Hi, I’m a logician. I don’t like to waste time so I will go right to the point:

You made a false claim that God, because he “is love” wouldn’t punish. God isn’t literally love, if so, he’d not be God, he’d be an emotion, which makes no sense, because emotions aren’t alive, they are are response of living beings. Further, if God could only love, he wouldn’t have a free will, he’d be a slave to love so to speak (supposing there was such thing as living love that could be God at the same time, but he’s not. It’s too convenient and wishful thinking.

So, major error there. Also, it’s common knowledge you punish for two reason: justice and to teach, just as you said, to teach. Is God NOT teaching by causing pain? Or is he not teaching when he exercises justice? Using your logic, no one should punish, people should get away with crimes, no one should be restrained even. Your logic is one sided and biased too, because you’re saying God shouldn’t have the right to exercise his truly free will.

Your second error: You said he gave us free will. Free will doesn’t justify doing wrong, it’s not a free ticket to do wrong or to try and do whatever we want.

Third error: You said, in response to the Christian who corrected you with the Bible, that “we feel” such and such. Feeling is inferior to reasoning. It’s by following your feelings over reasoning that is the main reason for fights (not as others say in a vague way, “religion” as in, “being religious.”) Simple example: children fighting, bad marrying decisions, unprepared pregnancy, leading to endless baby-murders, divorces and wrecked lives.

Fourth error (though is the same as the third one): Does that “resonate” with you? You said that your message “resonates” with you. What does that mean? It’s a vague statement that explains nothing. You also said that spirits can also be positive and not negative, and asked, “Why must they only be negative”? However your question is a rhetoric fallacy: your question doesn’t prove that spirits communicating in a way forbidden by the Bible won’t always be negative.

Fifth error: You’re use of the word “negative” is also vague. It has multiple meanings that don’t match. Negative can mean, “Displeasing”, “not having messages or an attitude conveying happiness” or “being unthankful and/or having a fault-finding attitude out of hatred”. The first two aren’t necessarily bad, the third is, so these definitions are not all compatible. Your question therefore could not be understood, it was meaningless. If you hadn’t used that deliberately deceptive New Age term and instead used the biblical “evil”, you would have been understandable and not teaching and spreading confusion.

The Bible makes it clear that consulting a spirit will have negative consequences because God forbade it, and sin (going against his command/s) leads to punishment, or what you might vaguely call “negative consequences.” That is why you will always. if “a spirit” really is speaking to you, get a deceptive message over all (not that every single thing said is going to be a lie). It’s also not the same as a sin like theft, in which you may have a temporary “positive” as you might call it, result, like getting a bottle of aspirin and getting rid of a headache. A demon doesn’t do anything beneficial, nothing significantly beneficial, not usually at least. It’s intent is always to deceive or facilitate some deception, including just by being silent if that’s all it feels like doing or was told to do by Satan. A demon is not like a genie in a bottle. It’s like an angry tormented snake covered in sharp thorns that wants to relieve its pain and is willing to harm you if it thinks it can ease its pain by doing so.

Sixth error: You’re use of the word “spirit” is also deceptively vague. You’re purposely avoiding specifying angels and demons and attempting to make people think that you can also talk to dead humans. There is no evidence, with the exception of one debatable verse in the Bible, that humans, especially unforgiven ones, will communicate after dying.

Seventh error: You said God unconditionally loves. Who says that, and what is the evidence for that? The Bible certainly doesn’t teach that, and if it did, it would be a major contradiction using your interpretation. You’re picking and choosing which verses you want to believe, and simply going with what is convenient and sounds most pleasing to your ears.

Eighth error: You can’t create a reality and there is no such thing as more than one. That’s an incorrect usage of the word. The way in which you use it goes opposite of one of the only definitions, which is, “The state of the world as it really is rather than as you might want it to be.” So you’re midefining it, completely going against it, by saying there is more than one reality. The word has not been used that way till New Agers started misusing it. It’s a delusional use of the word and sets people up for a fall and can get people killed because you are teaching people that they can literally cause dangerous things to be safe just by wishing or that lies can be true just by wishing, like making child abuse a good thing that directly helps children, or driving on the wrong side of traffic something that will improve safety, or jumping off a cliff something that will be a positive experience that leads to enlightenment and immorality rather. It’s an extremely against common sense delusion. It could even cause children to become mentally ill if they were repeatedly taught to believe in imaginary things and told that they can wish things into reality or wish things away, like the sun, and are later traumatized into a permanent mentally deluded state when someone abuses them, by endlessly responding with delusional defenses like pretending that the abuse is good, and even becoming worse by becoming addicted to abuse. Your reality creating fallacy is actually one of the roots of all logical fallacies: denial of absolute truth or rather, that there are absolute lies. And to deny that leads to endless confusion and mistakes. Your claim that we can create realities therefore refutes your very claim, because I can, according to you, create a reality in which you are completely false (and yet that can’t be true either because you deny that there is anything that can be completely true), hence why I said your reality is unworkable. An analogy of your teaching would be if we lived in a completely red universe, yet you say, “The universe is blue, but not truly, really, it’s red, but not really; because we can see blue if we want too, because we have free will. Just imagine you’re seeing red only?” And of course you ignore the test: just check to see if anyone is able to see red only using something other than your feelings and imagination.

So, you’ve created a life-wrecking, false and contradictory reality if anything, one that isn’t loving as you repeatedly insisted during your interview by Noory. And your using vague words makes it harder for the ignorant, gullible and stupid to realize that.

I hope you appreciate my patience in using my “free will” and valuable time to correct your mistakes for the benefit of all. You can learn how to be saved via the salvation link above.

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Yes World, Neo Pagans Are Stupid

January 4, 2012 22 comments

A neo pagan named Aaron(?) is parroting the myth that Bush voters had a low IQ and Kerry voters a higher IQ (see American Voters Are Really Dumb). It’s is typical of goatbaggers to NOT CHECK FOR FACTS and to believe whatever they first hear as long as it fits their feelings. Truly it’s stupid to “trust first, but verify” and wise to “first verify, then trust.” But what should you expect from people who believe in “magick”? Who believe, “It just happens cos it does dude”?

And how can a neo-pagan not know that Bush and Kerry are pagan Skull and Bones friends? Talk about ignorant.

And here is another pagan spreading pagan myths about Christians as all being a single unified church. On that page the prideful pagan says:

“It is appropriate, at this point, to note the great hypocrisy of the early Christian Church at the time of this “demonization” of the pagan religion.  Though the Church was willing to expunge the concepts of nature and the Goddess from the minds of Man, it was not going to throw out the baby with the bathwater and it incorporated vast elements of the pagan religion within its own ritual structure.”

And whatever you say is true because you repeated it and feel it. How about learn what logical fallacies are so that you stop committing them? Stop being a hypocrite yourself and biased bigot and lumping in all Christians together as one, as if you never heard of the reformation or the Bible to be able to read it yourself. You’re a typical blind emotion basher who keeps calling Christians Catholics and in your hypocrisy also acknowledges Gnostics. Is that the limit of your ability to learn? You can’t take the time to seriously study the Reformation? And no: that doesn’t mean reading one or three pages on Wikipedia and then smugly thinking, “Now I know it all.” How stupid: please do tell me what Reformed Baptists and Presbyterians have to do with paganism. Nothing. Just your delusions, your parroting of myths and your “we came first and first is bestest and rightiest.” And going back further into the past: to God’s word: show us the pagan symbols every in the Bible that God used for the religion he put forth. You can’t, because besides there being none, you miss and forget the utter obvious that you pagans love to complain about: That God wants all other religions to be destroyed and forgotten, for even the “poles” to be taken down and all the idols to be destroyed. And wow, what extreme blasphemy and arrogance: what was the “baby”? So, “Do unto others as you would have them do to you” and “Love your neighbor as yourself” and “Forgive your enemies and bless those who persecute you” and “Do not oppress a stranger” and “Don’t lie” and “Don’t steal” and “Don’t commit adultery” and “Honor your mother and father” and “Don’t covet (what belongs to your neighbor)” and “Love the Lord your God with all your heart” who put forth those laws are throwing out the baby and the bathwater? HUH!!!!?!????!?!?!!!!!!!!!!!! Which was the baby and which was the bathwater and what were either?! See world: pagans love to make flowery speeches, poetic, eloquent, but the meaning behind them is vague, empty, vain, nonsense. Look at that page, look how it says, “pagan pride” in fancy lettering. Pagan pride of what?! And how is that mature and how does that show a serious attitude towards the truth? It doesn’t Instead it’s a bold sign that says, “Nanny nanny boo boo I take pride in what I say and you can’t hurt me, I’m happy and you can’t make me sad. Hah.” Of course it’s not that obvious, but that is what is behind that shield statement. How many Christian pages can you find that say, “Christian pride”? But how many White Power, and Neo Nazi and racist pages can you find, “White Pride” on? And as everyone knows who knows about racism understands, that statement is one which is meant to rebuff what they see as attempts to make whites feel inferior. And what things do they see as attempts to make whites feel inferior?: Other whites mixing with blacks by being near to them, eating in the same places, having sex with them, marrying them, having babies with them, using the bathrooms as them, sharing the same tools and going inside the same buildings, and finally: affirmative action. Except perhaps for the last one, there is no arguing that none of those things are in and of themselves an attack on whites and meant to make them feel inferior, anymore than pagans are being teased by Christians when Christians, build churches, worship God, refuse to acknowledge a “goddess”, when Christians excel in science or other fields, when they make and increase friends and live in peace with their non-Christian neighbors, when they refute pagan myths like “The Burning Times” that pagans and their Wiccan brothers claim lead to the death of millions of witches by burning (talk about simple-minded and gullible), and when they refuse to have sexual relations with pagans, marry them or raise children with them. It’s also interesting and shouldn’t be surprising that many racists are pagans, who believe the myth that paganism came before Christianity and that that some how makes it legitimate and Christianity not. This is about jealousy and a childish belief that Christians are out to get pagans and bully and murder pagans, much like how the Germans during Hitler’s time were lead to believe that Jews were out to get them and wipe them out or other stupid things, and similar to how “extremist” Muslims view Christians (most of whom seem to have the wrong idea that all Christians are Catholics, or that Catholics and other Christians are the same, just go to different teachers with different leaders I guess). Something also that shouldn’t be surprising is that Islam is also a pagan religion: many Muslims will journey hundreds of miles to kiss a rock, as if it were a person, and view this rock as holy. On top of that, their religion started out as a moon-god worshiping cult and Mohammed’s exposure to Catholic teachings (which lead him to claim falsely in the Quran that Mary was part of the Trinity).

https://eternian.wordpress.com/life – The true gospel, not the gospel of the Catholic, Mormon, JW, 7th Day Adventist, Pentecostal and Universalist cults.

Related Info:

New Age and Neopaganism: Are They Two Separate Traditions? (that’s my custom title for the link)
Do Muslims Worship a Moon God?

Graham Hancock: Lost In Space

While studying my Coast to Coast AM archives, I noticed a long silly, anti-fundamentalist rant made by Graham Hancock, a psuedo-historian, hated by psuedo-historian atheists for contradicting their version history:

“…This point of view which is central to my argument in in uh Supernatural…is that our ancestors created these extraordinary cave paintings, and, uh, manifested this amazing quantum leap forward in their overall behavior eh as beings because they had altered states of consciousness, that they had encountered psychedelic plants, and that they had began to use these systematically their sha-mans, had begun to use them systematically, uh to, enter, alternative states of consciousness, and that in those states of consciousness they experienced visions  and encounters with entities and beings, which they then, when they returned to a normal state of consciousness, uh depicted, the earliest documents of human history they depicted on the wall of the painted caves, and thus they document their, encounters with their beings. Now this is where, thus far and no further do I go with the mainstream academics [atheist, agnostic and liberal “Christian” academics], because they then stop and say, “Oh well, of course the art was majestic and of course there was a fantastic leap forward in human behavior but they were just hallucinations, and there’s no real fundamental meaning to this. And where I ended up taking this, because the evidence drove me there, is that these experiences that we call, hallucinations in our culture, and that the sha-mans of hunter-gatherer societies still surviving all around the world visions, that these uh, that these visions are not unreal, that they are uh a retuning uh um of the receiver wavelengths of the human brain, to allow us to see other realities, that surround us and interpentrate us at all times, but which in a normal alert problem-solving state of consciousness, uh we cannot normally access and uh in a way I this is a criticism I have of of mainstream, science, uh, in general is that it’s very state state specific everything that our science does is predicated on the notion, that one particular state of humnan consciencess the alert problem-solving state of conciousness that we find useful to function in business and the military and commerce in the modern, world that this is really the only state of conciousness and that there are no other, valid states of consciousness [George then says, “Right”], and that are science [atheist, agnostic and liberal Christian science], refuses to investigate other states of consciousness in fact perversely, or perhaps not perversely” George than says as Graham is saying “perversely”, “It it’s vey narrow isn’t it?” Graham replies, “It’s extremely narrow and actually not only do they not investigate, the vhast range of human consciousness, not only do they not investigate it but they’ve actually in in collaberation with government made it pretty much illegal, to investigate it, “You may the, there you may not go,” they say, and may actually send you to prison if you do investigate it. So it becomes very difficult to investigate this so we have this incredible creature ourselves, with a vhast range of consciousness, uh we rea truly truly immense, and we have decided that we are really interested in a tiny narrow sliver, of that vhast range of potential, and that we will only focus on that and that all our experimental methods, uh and all our so called scientific approach will be based on the notion that that is the only, valid, form of human consciousness and as a result we rule out almost the entire range of human potential in our investigation so no wonder in my opinion modern science while achieving great things in the material band, uh is so screwed up, and leads us to so many probloems.” George then asks him why we need mood-altering substances and why we can’t do without it. Graham replies:

Some of ussome of us, don’t need the mood-altering substances or the consciousness-altering substances, but many of us, do. Um there’s a Puritan streak in our society which regards um, you know taking anything, uh any any substance any any any plant to change our consciousness as as fundamentally wrong but I think we have to, we have to accept that that streak is rooted in a particular history, of a story of history that we have had and that it may not be, may not be valid… and therefore, we should hestitate before we automatically robotically like automata uh accept the Puritan notions that have been stuffed down our throats from the 17th century, we should hesitate before we fully accept those and consider the possibilities that since all our experiences our mediated by neurochemicals it may be interested to explore the range of experiences by altering the neurochemical of the brain specifically and deliberately as sha-mans have done for tens of thousands of years, using plants that have co-evolved with us on this planet I think we need to rid ourselves of that knee jerk Purtanical reaction which is frankly not thought through and is not based on any, on any logic and here’s the thing, we are phsyical beings for sure, my vone personal belief is that we are spiritiual beings in essence…” and on and on this redundant, nonsensical, narcissistic, Christian, pagan and atheist-history ignorant, fundamentalist, truth and sicence-hating wanderer rambled, he just did not shut up.

That is someone who truly needs a beating to get him to stop to think rationally for a few seconds or to refrain from sinning. He seems to think that maintsteam science is controlled by fundamentalist Christians with his anti-Puritan babble, which was actually anti-Bible babble. No Graham, it’s mainly controlled by ignorant God-haters like you, and you got to see what happens when you don’t pander to your atheist and liberal Christian brothers. And: How the hell do some paintings of horses and hunting scenes and some dinosaurs mean that we should investigate what demons have to say via messing up the chemical balance in our brain? And what is your evidence that cave-paintings are the earliest “documents” made by humans? And haven’t you already watched “ghost” videos and seen quija board sessions to know that demons are useless, destructive, malicious, time-wasting, idiots? How do you not know basic history by now?: Christians and pagans side-by-side with much resistance from pagans developed and advanced their technology till God destroyed the pagans and then with the advanced knowledge they had the Christians started the world over again which quickly became evil again. The advanced knowledge that Noah and his family had thinned out as it spread, making possible things like the pyramids. As for “sha-mans” you call them – it wasn’t just hunter-gatherer societies that had them, pagans did too, and for thousands of years they were used by leaders. How far did these oracles, wizards and witches help advance the world? They didn’t, instead they in large part caused it to stagnate, as they taught the hindering teachings of demons or nonsense of their own invention.

The “narrow-minded” one is you for rejecting the obvious. And being “narrow-minded” isn’t even a bad thing so long as you are rejecting lies. To be narrow-minded to lies is a good thing, to be open-minded to lies is a bad thing. That is logic, not the nonsense you’re teaching.

Update 12-28-2011:

Graham is on Coast to Coast AM again. He’s being interviewed by Whitely Streiber. It’s good that Graham acknowledges that Christianity is a monotheistic religion (or rather that the Bible teaches that). However, does he believe in the Trinity, or does he also acknowledge that the Bible teaches a triune God? Or is he without saying it, implying that there is no trinity?