Irrefutable Proof Eternal Life Is Eternal

An explanation that shows Calvinism is irrefutable and any other doctrine against it is a “damnable heresy” and not simply some light doctrinal difference that can be overlooked. It is a grave matter to disagree with predestiny.

In the past I called the doctine of predistiny “Calvinism” (of John Calvin), but I do not like using this term as it may confuse people into thinking they worship John Calvin and that he is the only one to have realized the teachings he came up with regarding salvation. The teachings are in Scripture and the New Testament made it clear and John Calvin summarized them well. However I think a trap formed as the summary of his good teachings became so associated with his name it caused confusion and aggravation to those simply wanting to identify as saved Christians, or non-denonimational and to not to be associated with as being somehow birthed from the Catholic cult. I believe it better to simply be known as a Christian now, a follower of Christ, who is the head of thr true Church, and not John Calvin. Some may think, “Well how then to explain to someone quickly who believes their free will can defeat God’s salvation? Simply point out your doctrine is that God is God and his love is invincible, and as such, how can man’s hatred or choice to not follow Him defeat Him? It is like blasphemy to say God can be defeated.

Again: the most simple proof that God’s will is invincible is by virtue of who He is: He is love and His love is invincible. He is all powerful and all knowing and his wisdom is perfect. Further, Jesus, also called “Yeshua” by Jews and those wishing to say his name in Hebrew (which is “Joshua” in Hebrew to English), made it clear that eternal life (in spirit can be had now, by being created by God by His Spirit).

The Old Testament, Tanakh as Jews call it made it clear this way:

“Know therefore that the Lord your God is God; he is the faithful God, keeping his covenant of love to a thousand generations of those who love him and keep his commandments.” – Deuteronomy 7:9

He said,

Click here to learn the difference between the phrases “free will” and “free agency”.

Click here to read why, as Calvinism teaches, God must first “regenerate” you out of a “dead” and “fallen” state (a state in which you always reject God’s will in some way due to a love of sin and hatred for everything God is) so we will have the ability to make the correct choice to have faith in God to be saved by Him. See why God doesn’t simply “gives you a choice”/”gives us a choice” and doesn’t let anyone live however they choose and Bible verses that contradict the overgeneralization and inaccurate claim (which confused people keep repeating) that “God doesn’t send us to Hell” but that is is we who send ourselves there because we chose to.

“Free agency” simply means that when we make a choice we are the ones making it (how obvious is that?). “Free will”, in the way the average not-saved person/pagan or ignorant Christian would use it, means simply the ability to choose anything you think of choosing to do, like to believe the Bible is true AND OBEY IT’S LAWS, or even to become God or change your biological sex. It’s akin to denying what Jesus said when he said that we cannot change the natural color of our hair (we can mask the color, but at the genetic level it is what it is).

When some people say, “God gives us a choice” (sometimes they mean “choices” as in a choice between disobeying his laws or pleasing Him by repenting and submitting fully to His commands (though some incorrectly mean choosing to do “His will” rather than simply “obey His laws” because they think they can break His will with their will, which is impossible and a sign of their spiritual blindless) they are saying, “God gives us a free will so we can, without any influence, or unasked-for change of our heart or mind choose to do good or evil, which they seem to me to be confusing with “free agency”, which as I said, simply means “the ability to make a decision”.

Even if we had a free will
that alone wouldn’t be sufficient to make good choices that God desires. All it would be is just what it is, a will that cannot be influenced, or at least by anyrhing other than our own feelings. So to insist we have a free will as if that somehow causes us to be able to claim an inherent God-pleasing goodness doesn’t make sense, and if you haven’t even used your free will to please God you would be a worthless person who isn’t even worth listening to. But God wouldn’t be God if he had no ultimate control over everything including wills as He would then not be able to guarantee the outcome of anything to do with the beings He has created and will continue creating.

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Now for the proof that God has predestined the future of all beings regardless of the wills of his creatures and their desires and even God’s own desires. Remember too that God’s will and what he chooses to do does not always match his desires. For example his will is that every sinner repents and asks for mercy from the punishment of God’s eternal hatred/wrath/gets his forgiveness, but as is obvious to many people it is clear that he has chosen the majority of unforgiven people and all the demons to serve as eternal examples of the consequence of unrepentance and sin and God’s free choice not to save them from Hell, so that they will be an Irrefutable example that man by his will and desires alone cannot save himself from sin and Hell apart from God’s will. Also keep in mind that obviously God’s will does match some of his desires and that of other beings, and especially his children’s will be fulfilled one day (once they are in total harmony with God’s will):

First: When does salvation (from a corrupt heart/an addiction to sinfulness/sin and forgiveness of all of them from past to future so that there will not be any punishment in Hell) happen? Is it before or after death? Notice in 2 Corinthians 6:2 below that it points out that salvation (from eternal punishment in Hell and a sin-addicted heart) comes whenever you ask for it according God. Salvation is not as a gay Catholic who suffered demon possession each night (he told me this) something completed after you die (or after suffering purgatory, which Catholics may tell you you must go through, which is an imaginary place of sin-cleansing–Jesus pointed out that all sin is paid for by Him and our behavior is straightened out on earth (John 13:10), not Heaven, and only the body is sinful anyways, not the new spirit God gives those He forgives):

“For He says, “In the time of my favor I heard you, and in the day of salvation I helped you.” I tell you, now is the time of God’s favor, now is the day of salvation.” (2 Corinthians 6:2)

Next ask yourself these questions:

1. Does God have the right to change hearts using direct action by his Spirit without a person’s permission? For example did Jesus need the permission of the demon-possessed man in Mark 5:1-20 to cast the demons out of him, the demons who had combined their minds to form a being called “Legion”? Jesus cast them out without his permission and healed his heart so he could become saved. If he has not been saved immediately after then why would Jesus have said to him,“Go home to your own people and tell them how much the Lord has done for you, and how he has had mercy on you.”? If all Jesus did was cast out a mighty horde of demons then why did he say, “how much… and” as in doing two distinct things? Clearly God removed these strong demons forever from him/the “much” Jesus spoke of, AND saved him/”had mercy” on him. But if as Catholic teach, salvation comes after, then the man wouldn’t have much of a story. It would only be, “God for the moment removed demons from me that no one else could, but they may be back at any time.”

2. Does God have the right to cause a person to feel something without their permission?

3. Does God have a right to convince someone of anything without their permission?

4. Does God need your permission for anything?

If the answer to each is “yes” and the last “no”, then why would anyone reply with: “But God gives us a choice and free will, he doesn’t force us to do anything”? Because literally you disagreed four times to your own reply. What the blind and unsaved don’t see is that they are overgeneralizing “gives us a choice” and ignoring God’s will cannot fail, three that the human will is not free of God’s will and therefore of his plans and four: merely because there are choices in your mind or in reality doesn’t give you the ability to control what choice you make, or, five, give you the ability or power to make the best or correct choice. Six, if God perfects a person and causes them to be in perfect harmony with His will why is it that these ignorant and confused people who treasure a “free will” above God’s will, love, Son and salvation respond with, “But God gives us a choice, He gave us free will.”? If God loves them, saved them, and they “accepted” and chose to be saved, why would their reply afterwards be what apparently is the main focus in their heart and mind rather than repentance be, “But I can reject God any time I want.”?And why do they never complete their point when saying such things? Why don’t they properly finish it with, “But we still have a choice to abandon God and be in Hell forever if we choose.”? Are they somehow forgetting or is it that that sounds so inappropriate, illogical, absurd, shallow and rebellious that they refrain from saying it lest it be obvious they never repented and are still stubborn and obstinate and evil inside, that God never changed their heart? Such Christians use nice clothing, verse copy-pasting and the phrase “born again” in ignorance as a mask and fill in for actually loving and obeying God and in place of desiring to truly understand his word, that includes the meaning of “born again”, which they seem to think is merely a metaphor meaning, “changed from bad to good” and “saved from my sins”.That’s all for now. I hope God opens the eyes of all the anti-Calvinists who are trying to understand what I’ve written here, and it’s not as if it is complicated being that I’ve made the reality very clear. Rememeber Scripture says that before we are saved we are blind, bound by Satan the strong man, enslaved to sin, hard hearted and dead inside (we have no good spirit) and that no one does good or understands (how to be saved or how to please God). So, anyone who claims, as false Christians do, that God merely “nudges” them or makes their mind clear so they can can choose to be saved from sin and Hell and understand the consequences of not being saved from Hell still have logical explanation as to how even then a person then may get saved as THEY STILL LACK A GOOD HEART. Not only that, to say or imply that, “But God sit gives us a choice (to end up in Hell and betray him forever, note they’ll never put it that way), and so we still have a free will” are showing that Satan still has them mentally bound and is removing the obvious from their memory as soon as they “accept Christ into their hearts” (that’s their shallow, insincere and repentance-avoidant phrase for fooling themselves or others into thinking they’ve repented): because they’ve agreed God may forever save them by fully agreeing to commit themselves to his eternal will just by their attempt to get saved. In other words, repenting is to stop sinning, and asking for mercy and accepting Jesus died for all your sins is agreeing to be saved and changed forever. There’s no, “And you can make an eye wink or wish to get out of this contract whenever you feel like” clause, or exception. But the way these evil people rationalize that is to think, “But we still sin, we can make bad choices because God lets us.” In other words, they ignore the contract they’ve pledged themselves too and just call it sin if they decide to reject salvation all together afterward supposedly getting saved or being in the process of being saved, and further contradict themselves as by calling it just any other sin to abandon God have admitted that Christ would cover that sin too, as it’s still a sin and not an unforgivable one. So there is no way to undo Jesus’ suffering, salvation, contract/covenant or heart-change and process of perfecting a person or predestined plan of salvation for anyone.

The Bible makes this clear:

There is no wisdom, no insight, no plan that can succeed against the Yahweh. (Proverbs 21:30)

“Can you bind the chains of the Pleiades? Can you loosen Orion’s belt?” (Job 38:31)

Consider what God has done: Who can straighten what he has made crooked? (Ecclesiastes 7:13)

“I know that You can do all things and that no plan of Yours can be thwarted.” (Job 42:2)

Therefore if anyone claims to have lost their salvation or gotten it back: they were never saved in the first place. Instead, the Bible says of such a person:”They are like unreasoning animals, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like animals they too will perish. … It would have been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than to have known it and then to turn their backs on the sacred command that was passed on to them.” – 2 Peter 2:12, 21

“these people slander whatever they do not understand, and the very things they do understand by instinct—as irrational animals do—will destroy them.” – Jude

“If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace? For we know him who said, “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” and again, “The Lord will judge his people.” It is a dreadful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.” – Hebrews 10:26-31

More evidence that the will of all creatures is under God’s passive and active control is that Scripture implies that it is by God’s initial and ultimate pre-planning, His free choice, and not because of actions by any creature apart from His control or in response to it, that a creature will stay good, has become evil and becomes good, including forever. For example, no animal has been observed to do anything outside of what God made them for. And no angel has ever switched sides after their first decision to stay or rebel. For example there is no evidence that any angel which became a demon or an evil spirit rather has ever repented and become saved, including among the so called “Watcher” type. Likewise angels that didn’t sin are not known to ever sin. So, if there is such thing as a free will as in a will that is free from not just God’s influence and control but ANY influence or control, including Satan’s, then there should be chaos. There should not be any consistency in the behavior of anyone who is saved by God or not as there wouldn’t be anything causing them to be one way or the other. It is because of that fact that God’s control is a necessity for everything to have any order, consistency and predictability. Without God’s control there would be no reason to put trust in anyone or anything for consistent behavior. Why would I trust a person who is saved if the next moment they could and eventually would, being unhinged/unglued/not bound to God’s goodnesses, be a liar, thief and murderer? Is there any evidence that Satan loves God at one moment and the next hates Him? This is why Jesus said,

“to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God—children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.” (John 1:12-13) and

“No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him [giving him the desire to come to Me]; and I will raise him up [from the dead] on the last day.” (John 6:44) and

“No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me. I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned. … You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you so that you might go and bear fruit—fruit that will last”.

More evidence of a non-works-based and non-man’s-choice-to-obey-God destiny-based eternal salvation, (besides that Scripture outright says so and isn’t based on man’s uninfluenced choice that He be with God forever, or some “innate goodness”) is Jesus’ explanation of his sower and the seeds parable, in which he explains the spiritual state of all mankind and future mankind. In his explanation there is no mention of anyone getting a second chance to be saved or who loses their salvation. There instead are only two kinds of people among the types he describes: those who don’t obtain salvation and never produce a single good work, and those who do, and they never stop doing good deeds as a result of this gift of salvation:

“18 Listen then to what the parable of the sower means: 19 When anyone hears the message about the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away what was sown in their heart. This is the seed sown along the path. 20 The seed falling on rocky ground refers to someone who hears the word and at once receives it with joy. 21 But since they have no root, they last only a short time. When trouble or persecution comes because of the word, they quickly fall away. 22 The seed falling among the thorns refers to someone who hears the word, but the worries of this life and the deceitfulness of wealth choke the word, making it unfruitful. 23 But the seed falling on good soil refers to someone who hears the word and understands it. This is the one who produces a crop, yielding a hundred, sixty or thirty times what was sown.”

As for those who claim God saved certain people due to a “kernel of goodness”, that is a baseless claim. Nothing in Scripture teaches this, in fact it repeatedly says, “2 The Lord looks down from heaven on all mankind to see if there are any who understand, any who seek God. 3 All have turned away, all have become corrupt; there is no one who does good, not even one.” (Psalm 14:2-3) and “Once you were alienated from God and were enemies in your minds because of your evil behavior.” (Colossians 1:21). Besides that, Scripture says that faith without works is dead and vice versa, so why would God care about some magical speck of goodness in anyone? It also says “10 This is love: not that we loved God, but that he loved us and sent his Son as an atoning sacrifice for our sins.” So it is not, “This is love: not that we had a speck of goodness in us…” but that God was good to us who were evil to Him and not fully paying attention to His goodness or recognizing it fully, or totally ignoring Him. Again, “I revealed myself to those who did not ask for me; I was found by those who did not seek me. To a nation that did not call on my name, I said, ‘Here am I, here am I.’” (Isaiah 65:1).

Did Yeshuah triumph prematurely if as those who deny salvation is eternal if it can be negated at any time due to the potential for man’s so called “free will” as they call it to do so? No. And notice the finally of this passage which doesn’t speak of anyone becoming dead and unforgiven again: “11 Your whole self ruled by the flesh was put off when you were circumcised by Christ, 12 having been buried with him in baptism… 13 When you were dead in your sins and in the uncircumcision of your flesh, God made you alive with Christ. He forgave us all our sins, 14 having canceled the charge of our legal indebtedness, which stood against us and condemned us; he has taken it away, nailing it to the cross. And having disarmed the powers and authorities, he made a public spectacle of them, triumphing over them by the cross.” (Colossians 2:11-15)

And so there can be no doubt that God forgave whoever it is He felt like forgiving if there is still doubt, the apostle Paul made it very clear God didn’t forgive anyone because, “He saw they would choose salvation” as an Assembly of God pastor named Galen Woodward once told me. His claim was nonsensical because a “free will” wouldn’t be predictable and if “free will” leads to rejecting salvation why would God ignore the eventual rejection to come after they are saved and have eternal life? Free will believers even say God will reject the person that rejects Him! It’s also a contradiction because if God ignores the rejections that the “free will” cultists claim are hiding in the bushes ready to pounce at any moment to negate God’s convenant, then why do they deny: “once (we are) saved (we are) always saved” if eternal life is a permanent state of salvation? It also contradicts in a third way: If there exists some sort of goodness in a sinner apart from God’s goodness, and it causes them to choose to be saved when they hear the gospel, then of what need doed such a person have if they have such an invincible goodness in them that they can use it to save themselves, and even without needing Jesus to save them via his sacrifice? It also contradicts this teaching Jesus gave:

“It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. 32 I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.” (Luke 5:31-32)

So the very doctrine of a salvation that hinges on a “free will” (as in what a confused or blind person means, and that is a will that God has no influence or ultimate control over so that the will chooses what His will wants it to) is a contradiction by the way those who hold it teach it, besides it also being a futile teaching leading to eternal sadness and no hope of permanent peace and joy with God. Some heretics say it like this (as I point out elsewhere here),

Some falsely claim that “God destines us based on the choices He sees we will make, and doesn’t send us to Hell (because we choose to go there).”, but first, notice you’ll never hear them say “God doesn’t send us to Heaven against our will”, as in “force us in while hate for Him is in our hearts. They don’t understand that God first changes/unhardens a person’s heart, as in regenerates it.

Second, what verses support this claim that God merely accomadates our choices? Some may say, “God is love” and that is why. But that doesn’t explain anything specificly. It’s out of context to simpy say, “God is love”.

Some accept Hell exists and will go there, but to keep their delusion of sovereignty they say, “We choose to go to Hell, so we send ourselves there,” as if they controlled their destiny and can simply becomd good apart from God. That is not true as many other Christians have shown and as I do here. God It’s almost exactly a line I heard from an inmate in jail decades ago. Obviously it is an overgeneralization and an attempt at making a metaphor a truth, like saying, “Criminals accept they may be caught breaking a law and end up punished for it”, but that is not the same as ” Crimimals accept Hell and God exist and will walk politely into a burning lake of fire when God politely asks them to.” Since when does everyone believe in God and Hell? Further, even acceptance something like that earthly judgment may occur from human judges isn’t the same as “choosing” to be punished let alone to walk into Hell. It’s obviously then very delusonal thinking and a gross denial of reality or gross assumption and a gross show of pride to claim God won’t send anyone to Hell Even to claim that “we send ourselves to Hell by sinning” is a proof that God doesn’t have the right to send us to Hell or plays no part in destining our life so that there’s no way we can not be sent there is clearly wrong.
“From one man he made all the nations, that they should inhabit the whole earth; and he marked out their appointed times in history and the boundaries of their lands.” (Acts 17:26).

Paul said in Romans 9 that the potential for goodness and good deeds or even doing such deeds (if it were possible to do then apart from God’s goodness don’t determine who God decides to save

“8 …it is not the children by physical descent [from Abraham] who are God’s children, but it is [based on] the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham’s offspring. 9 For this was how the promise was stated: “At the appointed time I will return, and Sarah will have a son.”

10 Not only that, but Rebekah’s children were conceived at the same time by our father Isaac. 11 Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good or bad—in order that God’s purpose in election might stand: not by works but by him who calls—she was told, “The older will serve the younger.” 13 Just as it is written:
“Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated.”

14 What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all! 15 For he says to Moses,

“I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.”

16 It does not, therefore, depend on human desire or effort, but on God’s mercy. 17 For Scripture says to Pharaoh: “I raised you up for this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my name might be proclaimed in all the earth.” 18 Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden.

19 One of you will say to me: “Then why does God still blame us?For who is able to resist his will?” 20 But who are you, a human being, to talk back to Go? “Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’” 21 Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use?””

37 Even after Jesus had performed so many signs in their presence, they still would not believe in him. 38 This was to fulfill the word of Isaiah the prophet:

“Lord, who has believed our message and to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed?”

39 For this reason they could not believe, because, as Isaiah says elsewhere:

40 “He has blinded their eyes
and hardened their hearts,
so they can neither see with their eyes,
nor understand with their hearts,
nor turn—and I would heal them.”” (John 12:37-40)

So, we have an impaired will (not a totally free will) under God’s direction, not a free will that can choose whatever it wants to. The only choices we can make are that which God allows, whether he allows it passively, or actively causes it by His Spirit. This is how it is with all things, from the smallest particle to the heart. And when we who are saved attain freedom from the flesh’s desires to sin, our will will no longer have any desire to disobey God, not because of innate goodness, but because of God’s innate goodness and His unchanging will and plans.

The covenant of salvation is also sealed by God’s Spirit:

“In him, when you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and in him, when you also believed, you were sealed with the promised Holy Spirit.” (Ephesians 1:13)

“Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or terrified because of them, for the Lord your God goes with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you.” (Deuteronomy 31:6)

“For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God.” (1 Peter 1:23)

“No one who is born of God will continue to sin, because God’s seed remains in them; they cannot go on sinning, because they have been born of God.” (1 John 3:9)

For whatever is born of God overcomes the world. This is the victory that has overcome the world: your faith. (1 John 5:4)

“11 As the Scripture says, “Anyone who trusts in him will never be put to shame.”
12 For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile–the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, 13 for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”” (Romans 10:11-13)

“Whoever hears my word and believes Him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life!” (John 5:24)

“38 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God (that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.” (Romans 8:38-39)

“for though the righteous fall seven times, they rise again” (Proverbs 24:16)

“For those (who belong to God as good children forever) God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son” (Romans 8:29)

No one can cleanse themselves of their own sins by water their own suffering or money:

1 Hear this, all you peoples;
listen, all who live in this world,
2 both low and high,
rich and poor alike:
3 My mouth will speak words of wisdom;
the meditation of my heart will give you understanding.
4 I will turn my ear to a proverb;
with the harp I will expound my riddle:
5 Why should I fear when evil days come,
when wicked deceivers surround me—
6 those who trust in their wealth
and boast of their great riches?
7 No one can redeem the life of another
or give to God a ransom for them—the ransom for a life is costly,
no payment is ever enough—so that they should live on forever
and not see decay.
10 For all can see that the wise die,
that the foolish and the senseless also perish,
leaving their wealth to others.
11 Their tombs will remain their houses forever,
their dwellings for endless generations,
though they had named lands after themselves.
12 People, despite their wealth, do not endure;
they are like the beasts that perish.
13 This is the fate of those who trust in themselves,
and of their followers, who approve their sayings.
14 They are like sheep and are destined to die;
death will be their shepherd
(but the upright will prevail over them in the morning).
Their forms will decay in the grave,
far from their princely mansions.
15 But God will redeem me from the realm of the dead;
he will surely take me to himself.
16 Do not be overawed when others grow rich,
when the splendor of their houses increases;
17 for they will take nothing with them when they die,
their splendor will not descend with them.
18 Though while they live they count themselves blessed—and people praise you when you prosper—they will join those who have gone before them,
who will never again see the light of life.
20 People who have wealth but lack understanding are like the beasts that perish. (Psalm 49)

Even the Roman Catholic religion acknowledges that predestination is true: https://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12378a.htm

Finally there’s the ancient confirmation and agreement of what I’ve said by great English theologians in the 1600s who decided to make it an official publicly stated belief in human words of what the true Church should believe regarding whether or not anyone can save themselves by their own will and power apart from God. They said,

“Man by his fall into a of sin hath wholly lost all ability of will to any spiritual good accompanying salvation; so as a natural man, being altogether averse from that good, and dead in sin, is not able, by his own strength, to convert himself, or to prepare himself thereto.” Westminster Confession of Faith, by the Westminster Assembly, Chapter IX, section 3, recorded in the year 1646.

If you are not yet saved but are now convinced the Bible is consistent and God’s word no matter what correct version it has been translated to, consider repenting and asking God to save you now, lest Satan prevent it from ever happening and you spend the rest of eternity suffering unimaginable pain with him and the worst criminals. This is how: How to get saved (page link).

The Truth About Destiny

In reply to the Baptist traditionalist at of the Southern Baptist Convention, who spoke against the doctrine of predestiny (or just “destiny”) and speaking as if its teachers/believers of such are being unfair by not promoting anti-destiny belief at the blog post

https://soteriology101.com/2015/06/22/calvinism-in-the-southern-baptist-convention/

What do you mean by “doctrinal bias”? It isn’t their bias, it is based on Scripture. God is sovereign. We have a will but it is not able to be in compliance with God unless He wills it so. A free will is one in perfect harmony with God’s, but till the body of a forgiven person is perfected only the spirit of the saved person is completely free from sin.

But ultimately isn’t what matters is that God is going to free us permanently from evil and a sinful heart and mind? So why are you focused on the teaching of “free will”? Free will to go to Hell? Please, let God not let us think this way.

Demons Pretending to Be Angels and the Free Will Heresy

On Coast to Coast AM last night, George Noory had on “Doreen Virtue” which C2CAM says, “is a spiritual doctor of psychology and a fourth-generation metaphysician who works with the angelic, elemental, and ascended-master realms.” In other words, truthfully, “she communicates with demons which she has deluded herself into thinking are angels and so called ‘nature spirits'”. Doreen herself on the show acknowledged that demons can pretend to be angels and that people should not romance them for pleasure.

On the show, Doreen claimed that we must ask angels for help to get help from them, which reminded me of Mormons and other Free Will Christians, and suspected that that is why she said that, and then no surprise to me she confirmed it by saying that that was necessary or it would be a violation of our free will, however, she contradicted herself afterwards by saying that the only time they could help without our asking for it was “if it isn’t your time” (to die). It’s a contradiction because it implies that GOD’S WILL supersedes our own, and that isn’t compatible with the heretical “free will” nonsense teaching that I’ve been observing and learning about as I keep hearing the world talk about it. Basically, the world’s free will doctrine is that human free will is a sacred thing that must not be violated and that God won’t violate it (and many non-Christians believe that Earth aka Gaea and/or ‘Mother Nature’ also has a will of its/her own), yet, it’s a lie, and like so many lies, contradicts itself. Here is how it contradicts:

1) Wills are always in conflict everywhere, generally speaking, and depending on the personality of the ones who are not getting there way, it can lead to sin, crime, hateful arguing, rather than one side peacefully giving in to the other. So, to act like human’s wills can’t be violated as if it’s some physical law, is nonsense. It’s clearly observably wrong to claim our wills cannot be gone against successfully. Clearly not everyone’s will can be done as they want it to be done and there will always be unfilled will until there is perfect peace (which God says he will bring about, except in Hell). For the Free Will Christians who believe the Bible, who claim that God can’t go against our will, they are clearly wrong, since the Bible repeatedly claims God does that all the time. Some Christians try to brush that off with the ridiculous explanation that God isn’t really going against anyone’s will (how ridiculous!) when he punishes them, because they want to be punished. That is dumb, absolutely dumb. Sure, some people in bitterness say, “bring it on” or “I don’t care” but that’s because THEY DON’T KNOW THE WRATH in store for them. Like one proverb in the Bible says, “A servant cannot be corrected by mere words.” That (rebellious) servant can’t be corrected by mere talk because they aren’t feeling any pain and will especially dismiss warnings if they are feeling pleasure. It’s the same with a rebellious child or any person with a bad habit and who is having “a good time”: unless there is a painful negative consequence, emotionally or physically, they won’t stop. Further, why do so many people, when committing a crime, try to hide that they are committing a crime, or run when they think they are in danger of getting caught for that crime, or lie in court over whether they committed one or not? OBVIOUSLY, it’s because they don’t want to feel pain for what they did, not “BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BE PUNISHED”. But in order to defend their backwards doctrine, that is how absurd and childish heretics must think: backwards, backwards to the point of embarrassing absurdity that even kids who aren’t brainwashed can recognize is obviously stupid and illogical reasoning that goes against what even stupid people know is stupid.

2) If God’s will is also sacred and cannot be violated, then how can everyone else’s will also be sacred and forbidden from being violated being that God’s will is often not the will of man or anything else? That is a clear contradiction. And it is obvious that if anyone’s will is going to always be done, it’s going to be the all-knowing all-powerful eternal Creator’s, not the created things that like ants compared to him. The Bible even says that God’s will is always done in Heaven, and has us pray that it will always be done on Earth, and even Jesus said to God, “…but your will (be done), not mine.” Doreen tried to dismiss the Bible and untrustworthy because, “it’s been rewritten many times,” the cliche attack of an ignoramus who doesn’t know or refuses to acknowledge that the Bible is backed up by many old copies of itself showing that it has been copied very accurately in all the places that matter most, and that there is no evidence of loss of text. Her logic is also wrong in what she implied, which was that many copies necessarily lead to errors. She also stupidly implied that God can’t preserve his own word. With such an unreliable God why does Doreen pretend to love and honor him and that he’s in control? If he can’t preserve his own word, his laws, his commands to love, then how can we? And why follow him if he can’t keep track of what he says or if we can’t? Again: contradictions. That is the lot of liars: lies and contradictions.

3) Why would there be an exception like Doreen claims, that “unless it’s “not your time” angels can’t help you”? Is it just because she said so? Because some angel supposedly told her so. And so what if one did? Can demons pretend to be angels? She herself said so, so then she cannot simply claim, “angels never lie.” And being that humans can repeatedly make the same mistakes and be deceived till death, for years, she can’t claim, especially as a religion-ignorant, which she clearly is, that she is undecievable, immune to be fooled, tricked. Further, some demons, not merely staying in one place and keeping to themselves, go out of there way to lie to humans and deceive them, and having lived for thousands of years, have mastered deception and know how humans react to all kinds of situations and suggestions. And how long has Doreen lived in comparison to such demons? She sure has not lived long enough to become a master of the truth, nor has she studied well enough as was indicated by her evil broadside attacks against Christians, like that they “blackmail” people into believing there religion and her illogical vague statement that “preaching fear” is negative energy (a meaningless statement) with the implication that that is bad. And guess what Doreen is doing by making those claims? According to her vague nonsense, she’s also “preaching fear”. It’s also a clear lie to claim as she did, that all Christians do is talk about fear. Truly she’s a lying ignoramus. Who doesn’t know that millions of Christians have said and still do, “God is love” or “For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that whoever believes in him will not perish, but have everlasting life” or “love your neighbor as yourself” or “Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.” or “love your enemies” and “bless those who curse you” and the most famous of all, “Do unto others as you would have them do to you,” all of which are verses from the Bible. Yet she slanders all Christians, including the children, as “preach”ers “of fear” and negativity. Clearly it’s Doreen who is the preacher of fear and negativity by mainly focusing on what she perceives are “negative” things about Christians and mainly finding fault with them, when clearly they have done much good and continue to do so (I’m talking about true Christians, but even Free Will ones do some good, though at the expense of the truth about how to get saved and to lead people away from true salvation, though not all realize they are misleading people).

4) Doreen Virtue also made clearly wrong claims, which is that angels can’t help you unless you ask for it: but as she herself would know, angels are always helping people without them asking for it, and some don’t even believe in angels when they are helped by them. Many people also don’t pray for the help of angels, but ask for God’s help, knowing that he uses angels to do things for him, yet Doreen says to pray to the angels. Why would you pray to the angels rather than God who is in control of them? If you want a coworker to be friendly to you or to help you who is in a different state, do you pray to the coworker or to God? But Doreen hates God, so refuses to go to him for help, but instead wants to worship what he created.

5) Concerning again Doreen’s claim that angels need our permission to help us, how can she say that when surely she hears stories all the time of people being helped by angels and not knowing they were angels or being helped without asking? That could be seen a deliberate deception or insanity for her to ignore what she repeatedly sees contradicts her “free will” belief, which is really about pride and a childish attitude of rebellion towards God. And if angels need our permission, then doesn’t God? Does God need our permission for anything? Obviously to say he does is stupid. That’s lying say that I need the permission of a toy I made, even a living one with a mind, to do anything to it, or that a parent needs the permission of the child to move it somewhere, teach it something, feed it something, give it a gift, love it or even talk to it (which leads to a paradox: how can you ask for permission to talk without first talking if not given permission to talk?) And if a parent doesn’t need its the permission of its children for anything but a few exceptions, how much less does God the creator and sustainer of all things need it? And consider the evil consequences of this free will logic, at least Doreen’s: Humans must ask each other for permission to help each other in all circumstances, including to save each others lives. Consider how many more people in the world would be ignorant, sad, injured and dead from such a law. But many people realize the evil of such bad logic, and have made “good Samaritan” type laws as are mentioned on Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Samaritan_law. It’s noteworthy that Wikipedia however, doesn’t point out the origin of such laws: God’s word.

“Do not let anyone who delights in false humility and the worship of angels disqualify you for the prize. Such a person goes into great detail about what he has seen, and his unspiritual mind puffs him up with idle notions.” – Colossians 2:18

“the devil took [Yeshua] to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. “All this I will give you,” he said, “if you will bow down and worship me.” Jesus said to him, “Away from me, Satan! For it is written: ‘Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.’” – Matthew 4:8-10

“I will keep on doing what I am doing in order to cut the ground from under those who want an opportunity to be considered equal with us in the things they boast about. For such people are false apostles, deceitful workers, masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.” – 2 Corinthians 11:12-14

“who are you, a human being, to talk back to God? Shall what is formed say to the one who formed it, ‘Why did you make me like this?’ Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for special purposes and some for common use?” – Romans 9:20-21

Update: 6-16-2011

Yesterday, after having written the above (except Romans 9:20-21 which I added while adding this note), I finally realized the solution to what was a long and great mystery to me: “Is the human will and all wills “random” (because random would seem to be the result of ‘not controlled’, in other words, not a machine that is just programming or being moved around by God directly or indirectly), and is randomness necessary, and if random, how could God predict what would happen in the future correctly? And is a random will necessary for self-awareness and responsibility for the actions of the person who makes choices using their will?” God’s word had the answer all along. First of all, it makes it clear that God predestines everything (and the claim that God doesn’t predestine anyone to Hell is stupid). God doesn’t destine some things and others allow to be loose, random and free to do whatever. Second, there is no evidence that a will must be random in order for a person to be aware of themselves and that their choices and to be responsible for them.

“To humans belong the plans of the heart” – Proverbs 16:1

“A person’s steps are directed by Yahweh” – Proverbs 20:24

“In Yahweh’s hand the king’s heart is a stream of water that he channels toward all who please him.” – Proverbs 21:1

False Teacher – Chuck Missler’s False Gospel Given On Coast to Coast AM

Chuck Missler last night was on Coast to Coast AM. He appeared to be a loving saved Christian, but then I noticed at one point where he was using Coast to Coast to preach, gave a typical Arminian gospel (which is a misleading one that leads people to Hell and makes them “twice a child of Hell as … you” to quote Jesus), which is “accept that Jesus died on a the cross for you” MINUS ASKING GOD TO FORGIVE YOU. As usual, Christian-hater and fundamentalist-hater George Noory, who hates to listen to Christian preaching, and who knows that most of his audience does too (and is successful because he twists, avoids, and marginalizes it, like Chuck Missler does), stopped his Christian guest short (Chuck) when Chuck was preach his version of the gospel. It is possible that Chuck was going to say after saying that you must accept the lord’s death, that you must also ask him for forgiveness, BUT Chuck had two hours to make that point and was not shy to take advantage of the show, and it’s a crucial part of the gospel, yet Chuck did not mention it. This is how Arminians are. Why? It’s because being that they believe that they have goodness in them, they have pride, pride that they can have eternal peace apart from God’s goodness produced by this goodness in them, so then, they believe that they don’t truly need God’s forgiveness for eternal peace or perfect peace, and they also believe in their own goodness so much, they can’t accept that God would hate anyone. They also no doubt to me believe that they don’t need God’s forgiveness, because, “God doesn’t hate anyone.” No doubt to me they also believe that God wouldn’t hate anyone, because he already took his anger out on Jesus (which if they believe, is truly twisted: because they are saying that God hated his own perfect Son, but not those who refuse to ask God to forgive them for disobeying him/being imperfect) or on the sins that Jesus suffered for (which would be nonsensical, because sins don’t feel pain, they are actions, not living, or “objects of wrath.”) They are also evil in that they can’t accept that God would even hate a person if they weren’t good. So for all those reasons, is why they stop short at “Jesus shed his blood on a cross for your sins” and some perhaps, won’t even mention that Jesus suffered, or will avoid it, because it’s “distasteful” to them or they can’t believe that God would deliberately make anyone suffer, or that Jesus needed to. Or, they may believe that Jesus volunteered to suffer, and therefore was punishing himself, not God, but because they don’t think the suffering was important, but rather the blood-shedding on a cross and for many, baptism (which many Arminians obsess on as being necessary for eternal peace). They also believe that they have a completely free will, which can’t be influenced (which is an insane belief since it goes against common sense). They believe this because they hate God and want to be his equal, which is why they call themselves “sovereign”, and so they also believe that God can’t destine anyone, avoid talking about the parts of the Bible that mention destiny, or miscontrue it as “election” (that God elects whom he will save because he saw in the future that they would do good), and hypocritically, though they acknowledge that God is sovereign, refuse to accept that God has the same “rights” they they believe he gave to them, that he can hate whom he wants to, and decide what the future of his life will be (which includes how the lives of others will be).

These teachings of theirs are contradictory, because they admit that they have disobeyed God, admit that it’s so bad in God’s eyes, admit that they must repent, and that sin angers God so much, that he punished his only begotten son, a perfect son, Jesus, who was also God, severely, and so severely that figuratively, God says that, “he became sin.” But despite that, Arminians repeatedly fail to say that we must ask God to forgive us. This explanation I have given, makes it clear that Arminians are prideful and self-righteous (and again, they admit that they are good apart from God, or can be).

And because of they refuse to acknowledge that they are evil, that they need God’s goodness done in them to be good, and Christ’s good life up to his sacrifice as an appeasement to God for our lack of a good life and none sacrifice and inability to sacrifice ourselves without it being never-ending, they refuse to accept what is logical and reject common sense, and so are prone to all kinds of other errors, and life all those who are unsaved, often make hypocritical compromises, which leads to them further contradicting their main beliefs.

Chuck also believes that all the saved Christians will be raptured into Heaven so that they don’t have to go through the tribulation, taking this verse out of context:

“in a moment, in a glance of an eye, at the last trumpet. For a trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall all be changed.”

The context is made clear by Paul:

1Co 15:35 But someone will say, How are the dead raised up, and with what body do they come?
1Co 15:36 Foolish one! What you sow is not made alive unless it dies.
1Co 15:37 And what you sow, you do not sow the body that is going to be, but a bare grain (perhaps of wheat or of some of the rest).
1Co 15:38 And God gives it a body as it has pleased Him, and to each of the seeds its own body.
1Co 15:39 All flesh is not the same flesh; but one kind of flesh of men, and another flesh of beasts, and another of fish, and another of birds.
1Co 15:40 There are also heavenly bodies and earthly bodies. But the glory of the heavenly is truly different, and that of the earthly different;
1Co 15:41 one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for one star differs from another star in glory.
1Co 15:42 So also the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption;
1Co 15:43 it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power;
1Co 15:44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
1Co 15:45 And so it is written, “The first man, Adam, became a living soul,” the last Adam was a life-giving Spirit.
1Co 15:46 But not the spiritual first, but the natural; afterward the spiritual.
1Co 15:47 The first man was out of earth, earthy; the second Man was the Lord from Heaven.
1Co 15:48 Such the earthy man, such also the earthy ones. And such the heavenly Man, such also the heavenly ones.
1Co 15:49 And according as we bore the image of the earthy man, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly Man.
1Co 15:50 And I say this, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does corruption inherit incorruption.
1Co 15:51 Behold, I speak a mystery to you; we shall not all fall asleep, but we shall all be changed;
1Co 15:52 in a moment, in a glance of an eye, at the last trumpet. For a trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall all be changed.

If you can’t tell what the context is: it’s the second resurrection. The first resurrection happens when Christ returns, destroys the anti-Christ, false prophet, beast, and hundreds of millions or billions of evil people, and reigns for a thousand years. That happens AFTER the tribulation, or completes it. Here is the reference in the Bible to this first resurrection: “Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. The second death has no authority over these, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and will reign with Him a thousand years.” – Revelation 20:6.

Chuck was also being a hypocrite when George Noory told him that he was concerned that Harold Camping’s false prophecies (or predictions or interpretations of the Bible about when the end of the world would be) would lead some to suicide, and Chuck said he was concerned that it would lead some to disbelieve the Bible and that atheists would use it to blaspheme God. Yet Chuck is doing little different by also giving a false timing for the rapture. What will all those Christians who go through the tribulation think, and how will they feel, without that stable goodness of God in them, when the anti-Christ bludgeons them and persecutes them, and Jesus doesn’t come to take them out of their worry or doesn’t affirm that their complacency is a good thing? Will the majority of them think, “Oh no, the Calvinists were right” or “The Baptists and Presbyterians were right?” No: they will “fall away” and “betray one another” and some or many will rationalize taking on the mark of the Beast because they can’t believe that God will have left them behind, and that as many of them believe I’m sure, the mark is really “a computer chip that is implanted into you”, and some will probably realize they were wrong, and out of greater hatred for God for not giving them there way, will take the mark in an attempt to harm God through such provocation. Some will probably disbelieve the Bible and commit suicide, seeing how bad the world gets or because of the severe persecution, and not having God in them to help to “not fear those who kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul.” (Matthew 10:28)

The Arminian’s Confusion Over The Will and Man’s Sovereignty

Many Christians and pseudo-Christians, like Mormons, are Arminians, or have Arminian-like beliefs. The Mormons no doubt have them because their founder, the narcissist sociopath Joseph Smith, knew of a major split between various Christians, that which was between those who believed in predestiny and those who believed that man was in control of his future and Joseph also believed that the U.S. Constitution, was divinely inspired, though it was really a creation of deists, perhaps influenced by what they learned from some Indian/Native American tradition or laws. The U.S. Constitution that mankind had “inalienable rights”. Inalienable means “Incapable of being repudiated or transferred to another” and repudiated in part, means, “reject as untrue”. And “right” in that context, means, “An abstract idea of that which is due to a person or governmental body by law or tradition, nature or God.” And the Deists believed that mankind had the right to liberty and to pursue a life of happiness. The Bible does teach that you have the option to attempt to have liberty, which means, “freedom from servitude, confinement or oppression” and to try to be happy, and that it is natural to be happy over certain things, but it doesn’t teach that liberty and happiness itself are something you will have in life, though it seems that most people get to experience being happy at least one time in their life, the exception being maybe babies that are born severely deformed or incomplete, or people who are always in severe physical pain. A confused person, like a narcissist might think that liberty and happiness was guaranteed to him by God and also a person who resents God’s authority and control over them, and so it shouldn’t be a surprise such people would obsess over their “rights”, and even turn them into major religious teachings like Arminus (the founder of Arminiasm) and Joseph Smith did. Joseph Smith’s cult has their own fancy phrase for the will, calling it “free agency” in an attempt to make themselves sound wise and to distinguish themselves from other cults and the Christians (and which is a term that leads to further confusion). Joseph Smith even made his own attempted replacement or out-doing of the Bible, called “The Book of Mormon”, and stupidly included the words “rights” and “liberty”, repeatedly, and ended up sounding like a poor imitator of various speeches made by the “founding fathers”. The Book of Mormon ended up being littered with punctuation and grammar errors and major plagiarism from the Bible that he attempted to out-do. Joseph Smith also tried copying it’s literary style, and failed often due to his ignorance of Old English grammar. He even copied the italics in the King James Bible into the Book of Mormon, making it even more obvious that he wasn’t divinely inspired, but a forgetful and lazy idiot, and whose fatigue (caused by his making his long rambling work while sinning and desiring to sin), hindered him. And so again was fulfilled these verses: “Let God be true and every man a liar.” (Romans 3:4) and “For the wisdom of this world is nonsense in God’s sight. For it is written, ‘He catches the wise with their own trickery’.”

As I’ve taught before, there is no conflict between “free will” and God destining everything he made. The confusion is over what “will” means and what it is, something which opinionators and God-haters keep misdefining. A will doesn’t mean “a thing which is free and makes choices freely without influence”, which is where the illogical term “free will” comes from. And if the will is free, then “free will” is a redundant phrase. But the will is a part of the human mind that makes choices, but choices which are influenced, and choices which aren’t always able to be fulfilled, and choices which God does not have to respect or love, if they are against what he says is good. And God can influence people perfectly, and doesn’t need to do so directly in all instances, for him to cause to happen what he wants to. He can get what he wants indirectly, in various ways. He designed the universe and gave it the direction he wanted, knowing what would happen, and what would happen when he permitted things and commanded things and directly intervened. So, he has pre-destined everything, and there is no getting around that. No scheme will change that, and no teaching will make it less true; God is sovereign, and his will never fails, and we are under his influence, in this universe, which belongs to him, not us.

Update: 5/20/2011, 11:20

George Noory has yet another Christian on named Dr. Joye Jeffries Pugh, who is also teaching the rapture is a non-judgment day event, who at 8:44 AM I just learned was most likely saved (I’ve been talking to her). She taught that the rapture happens after the tribulation as far as I can remember from the show, but I’m not sure. I’m trying to find out now.

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Arminian and Universalist Christians Refuted׃ The Limited Love Arminians

I was studying Arminianism again, and found two websites which, big surprise, made claims without evidence.

The first one:

“As informed by St. Augustine, this view espouses the notion that God, out of love, has sovereignly chosen to save a few (the elect) and has, in like manner, not chosen (not elected) the many. We have trouble with this, since it limits God’s love.”

My reply:

1) And whatever you a mere man or others have trouble with means God is wrong? How are people blind to such arrogant, childish, criminal reasoning? “Mom, dad you’re not doing what I want, this troubles me, therefore… ur bad.” I don’t think so.

2) It’s Arminians and Universalists who limit the greatness of God’s love to their personal feelings of what great love is:

How is God’s love “limited”? Do you mean, “it’s not great” or literally it must apply to everything? If you mean it’s not great, aren’t you blaspheming? For if God’s Son had only sacrificed his son for one person, who in the Hell are criminals to say “that’s not great,” you’ve love is limited, let alone, “you trouble me God”? Who are you to condemn God for his will for not fulfilling your desires? But does the Bible say Jesus only died for one? No, it implies millions, and yet you cheapen every one of those he suffered and died for, as if it were some easy thing that you could do. Talk about disgusting arrogance! On top of that, does he say that he will only love those he died for? NO! IT TEACHES HE WILL KEEP THEIR CHILDREN AS WELL, AN INFINITE AMOUNT OF EVER MULTIPLYING CHILDREN! SO YOU HAVE NO BUSINESS SAYING “LIMITED”!

3) Were you are so simpleminded, so childish in logic, that you literally meant that God should love everything? Do I even need to point out how such a claim contradicts itself? Focus: “everything”? “Every, single, thing”? If you can’t figure out why that is an evil thing to say, you need to pray for wisdom with humility, not false humility, without bias.

4) God has trouble with your blaspheming.

Then I came to another website and read some screed (yes I picked up that word off that bitter atheist I mentioned some posts ago, but it fits so well for what I read, part of which I quote here):

“It is not our intention to go into a detailed complicated theological analysis of each point in each belief system, but only to highlight and summarise the core differences between them.”

But then the fools near the end of their screed say,

“The God of Calvinism sacrificed his son Jesus Christ to die on the cross for his Elect only, and he predestined only his Elect to be saved. This must also mean that he predestined, knowingly and willingly, to cast the vast majority of humanity (the non-Elect) into hell to be tortured forever. This makes the God of Calvinism an evil god, infinitely and unimaginably more evil than Hitler could ever be.”

My reply:

1) Let me guess why you Royal “It is not our intent” Jeeve’s Bring Me More Wine Snobs didn’t get into analyzing each point, not even with a single sentence… because you’re confused, blind, ignorant morons who know Calvinist doctrine refutes whatever argument you can come up with; because you know many verses in Scripture contradict your bitter lies. What verses teaches God goes along with man’s will over his own, anywhere? But plenty can be shown that it’s just the opposite, and I’m not repeating for your lazy selves since they are easily found.

2) Where’s the evidence that God is evil to predestine? NONE. Therefore you’re blaspheming, and of all things to blaspheme over: God’s character and will; could you be anymore evil than that? Talk about “hypocrisy” and “blasphemers”.

3) Doesn’t the Bible say that we should suffer for doing evil if it is God’s will? How is that not a big enough hint that God is right now matter what he does?

4) How Arminians and Universalists, do you reason, God is evil if he predestines people to Hell because, WELL JUST CUZ! CUZ IT’S “MEAN”, but not for making even a single being he knew would sin and end up in pain? Contradict yourselves much? Ignore verses that refute you much?

5) “Mean” and “evil” and “cruel” to who? Who gave you narcissists and you arrogant babblers the right to speak for millions of ever multiplying Calvinists? Did we say God is cruel or evil? So what business do you have declaring for all, speaking for all of us you claim are evil on top of it, as to what we think of God, how we feel about him, you arrogant snobs? Talk about “arrogant” and “vain”! GOD, IS, GOOD, GOD, IS, LOVE. Stop calling him evil and a cosmic rapist.

6) Why did you leave out that Jesus of his own free will and out of love, volunteered to be sacrificed Mr’s and Ms’ We Have Free Will and Unlimited Love But God’s Is Limited? Did you forget that extremely unfathomably great act of love? You didn’t think it was worth mentioning? What a strange thing to not mention in your summary of the different types of Christians for people who without their mouths put love and freedom on a pedestal above God.

7) If God predestines “the elect” to be saved, is he evil for going against their will to be saved? According to your demonic logic he is.

8) If God doesn’t go against anyone’s will, you must not believe “predestine” when you read it. You’re truly deluded.

9) Where does God mention “second fruits”? If the elect are both the first and the second (in contrast to Christ being a kind of firstfruit according to God), then where is this “second/third” you imply exists? Where’s your verses to show for it? None: you just babble in vain pretending you’re right.

10) ” to cast the vast majority of humanity”: LIE. Did you notice any verses in Scripture that say that the elect will have kids to no end?

11) ” to cast the vast majority of humanity” as opposed to what, ONE PERSON? So if God sends one person or a small amount of people to Hell, theeeeeen it’s okay if he predestines to torture forever? And why bother saying “elect” when you’re problem is with sending most people to Hell, and not “electing”? Or is “electing” an evil bug to you too?

Your, “Our will is ours! You can’t touch it God!” belief and teaching = life-destroying pride. You false Christians pretend to love God, and their arguments are pretentious, hypocritical, confusion that makes God the author of confusion and lies.

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A “Calvinist” Message to Arminians׃ “Eternal” means “ETERNAL”

Unholy Ian Punnett and Monica Holy: Two Confused ”New Age” Teachers

Tonight, the heretic Ian Punnett had on an “afterlife paramedic” named Monica, who said that “on the other side” (some vague place where spirits can be seen) “there is no right, there is no wrong” and that “there’s an equal shift of giving and receiving”. So it’s not wrong to lie or steal or abuse anyone, and of course, stereotypical meaningless vague New Age babble about giving and receiving stuff in equal amounts. It’s a common tactic of Satan to try and comfort people by talking about “balance” and “equality” and being vague about what is meant and avoiding specific details, the idea being to make it harder for people to spot obvious contradictions. It would be like a liberal saying, “Children are equal to adults” and not saying in what way or literally meaning what they said. Monica might as well have said, “Everything is equal”, which would have been just as false and without evidence.

Ian asked her if there was a maleveolant force, and she said that she’d experienced “various dark energies in various forms”. Yet more vaguenes with no reference to Satan or other demons. She didn’t say, “Yes I saw a bad person” or “bad being” or “evil”, which would have directly contradicted her statement about there being no right or wrong, so she used the vague word, “negative”, a word which weasels (like fake Christians and anti-Christians) often use in place of “evil”, “wrong” and “bad” in order to avoid being being accused of “judging” or “condemning”. False Christians will also use “Satanic” in addition to “negative”. It stems from their hatred, ironically, of God’s laws, which also ironic, is a Satanic attitude itself, and definitely “negative”.

At about 1:12 A.M. (mountain time), after I had written the above: Almost immediately after a commercial break, Monica told Ian, “I found… an equilibrium” and a few seconds after that she’d encountered a “negative energy” and called it “an equilibrium setting”. Just as I said, “equality” is used as a catch word (by such non-Christians).

1:27 AM: More narcissist, word salad New Age babble from Monica: After being asked by Ian if there was a Heaven or Hell, she gave the cliche, “I believe Hell is of our own making… it really is… there’s different levels of frequency where emotions are concerned… there’s vibrating… there’s lower frequency emotions.” Again, it’s also a typical tactic of Satan to use “high words” that people don’t understand, and applying them in ways that make them seem understandable but are vague and nonsensical, and then getting other ignoramuses to repeat them in those wrong ways, and worse, which inflates their pride because they think they are saying something profound and wise. George Noory does it when he uses the word “dimensional” in a sentence like, “Are these beings dimensional or are they physical” which makes an illogical contrast between dimensional and physical, as if they were opposite and incompatible things, when they are not. Dimensional simply means,
having dimensions” not “spiritual” or “from another universe” or
from another dimension (that we can’t perceive)” as George incorrectly implies it means.

It’s really sad that so many people are confused like this and buy into the kind of nonsense that Ian, George and Monica put out, and wor3savesave resse, binds people more greatly on their way to Hell.

At about 1:48, Monica said that she believed that people chose to be born in their circumstances (for example homeless or disabled), and Ian replied, I find the idea of predestination very Calvinist, it’s very old school, I don’t know if I can accept that. Ian’s complaint was absurd and nonsensical since Monica was saying that we with out will were choosing our circumstance before hand, not “God does”. That is just another example of how stupid and ignorant and nonseniscal Ian’s reasoning is when it comes to anything that has to do with religion in general. He’s clearly, to those who can see, spiritually blind.

It would have been appropriate however, if Ian had asked Monica, “So you’re saying that if a little kid is sexuallyy abused, it’s okay, because they wanted to be sexually abused? Or if someone is raped it’s not really raped because they wanted to have sex?” So Monica not only has said that there is no right or wrong wherever it is she believes that spirits exist, but has also implied that there is no right or wrong where physical beings exist. Yet more justification criminal behavior.

Monica also said that dogs can see the “infrared plane” and that she had heard that it was a plane (as in a spiritual plane of existance). The infrared is actually a form of light, not a place or plane. Ian shamefully didn’t correct her, or was ignorant about this too. “Plane” is another one of those catch words that ignorant people fancy using, especially those who regard themselves as “spiritual”. To say “plane” in reference to spiritual places seems to me to be a Dungeons and Dragons invention, a fancy word in place of “place”. It’s also nonsensical since it implies that spiritual places are flat, or have flat surfaces. It reminds me of people who supposedly believed that Earth was flat. No surprise that make-believe books are part of the source of such New Age beliefs.