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‘Motivator’ Tony Robbins, Anti-Christ?

Note: This was meant to be a comment to a Tony Robbins follower’s comment (Laura, whom I quote below) to this blog article on why they left one of Tony’s seminars, but my comment got so long I’m just posting it as a blog post. Some of you may not like me using caps in my reply, but there was no “bold” tool in the comment form.

Laura who stood up for Tony Robbins said on JUNE 23, 2019 AT 11:44 PM,

You have no idea how many great things you missed out on by leaving early! What’s sadder yet, is the fact that you’re using your lame excuses to leave; from possibly convincing another human being not to go and missing an experience of a lifetime! Even Oprah, Who never stays more than 3 hrs anywhere; got so involved that she stayed entire day and walked over coals that night! So anyone looking for advice….be your own best friend and experience it yourself and make your own opinion!

Anthony Robbins is a false teacher like Buddha, Joseph Smith and Bill Gothard. Like all cultist leaders and false teachers (and malicious arguers) he uses vague expressions/is vague, not specific, contradictory leaves out obedience to God/God as the ONLY source of ultimate morality and eternal peace. He’s also now a known hypocrite and sexually and psychologically abusive bully and you described someone with narcissism disorder: boastful, immature (for his age), shallow and a liar (even if you didn’t directly say so.

https://graziadaily.co.uk/life/opinion/tony-robbins-sexual-assault-and-harassment-allegations

Also, why is “even Oprah” a benchmark for who should go?

https://nypost.com/2010/04/12/oprah-lied-about-poverty-sex-abuse-tell-all-book-claims/

Winfrey and Trump both preach a gospel of wealth, health, and self-determination, following in the relatively recent prosperity gospel tradition, which broadly speaking says that God wants people to be wealthy and healthy and that followers are responsible for their own destiny here on Earth.” – quoting Elizabeth Dias in Time Magazine in January 9, 2018

(Time Magazine:) Oprah Winfrey and Donald Trump Promote the Same Populist Theology

Oprah is also a known liar, a panderer and shallow. And again: why would she be a benchmark? Is Oprah Jesus or God? You’re gullible, ignorant, shallow and you don’t make sense. You’re blind, a hypocrite, contradictory like your idols. You said to have your own opinion (as does Tony Robbins), yet calling Noah stupid in word and actions and shameful for it. Now, lose your LGBTQ sky-high kind of self-blinding pride and delusion, turn to Christ, not narcissism spreading-Tony who contradicts God: he claims POWER AND POSITIVE THINKING AND SOME VAGUE IMPROVEMENTS BASED ON OBTAINING MORE POWER AND MORE POSSESSIONS CAN MAKE YOU FLY AS HIGH AS YOU CHOOSE (MEANING???), AND “GOING OUT AND DOING IT” AND TO, NOT THINK NEGATIVELY.

All he did was gut the specifics out of the Bible, replace God with himself and you as his disciples and use replacement words like exchange “grumbling” in Scripture for “being negative minded”. Tony made HIMSELF the ultimate motivator and our desires SECONDARY TO HIS DESIRE TO MAKE MONEY OFF US AND PLAY LORD OVER US. Don’t you know about Pastor Robert Tilton? The con-artist Christian who twisted Scripture by claiming faith in Christ to get rich on earth / “positive thinking” and to pray with him (Tilton) would help would make it come true? Tilton’s trick was to leave out how how to obtain ETERNAL SECURITY AND PEACE and replace it, as does false Christian teacher Joel Osteen(second reference for Osteen here) and Tony Robbins and long dead Buddha with having eternal success on earth BEFORE YOU DIE. Buddha’s unique or somewhat unique lies was that to desiring anything was an evil and therefore lead to evil and so to not desire anything lead to (his desire to not experience mental or physical pain – which is a narcissistic and childish response to feeling pain. It’s a demonic contradiction BECAUSE one must love God, honesty and moral behavior, based on God’s laws, and DESIRE to not to break his laws: theft (and being greedy), murder (and unjust injury or carelessness leading to it), lying (and commiting adultery), to NOT feel ETERNAL pain. There’s not going to ever be a cessation of pain on earth and God uses it to test everyone so we can all see by our reactions to pain if we are moral or not. If you feel pain then say, “so I won’t love or hate anything” and try it, you’re IMMORAL! Tony Robbins even says TO LOVE, so at least he’s not as bad as Buddha who teaches a straight out contradiction on how to not feel pain. And who doesn’t know that not loving someone you’re in love with, or your parents, children o or pets causes pain to do so and DEPRESSION, a pain of severe and very long-lasting sadness that can end up being eternal sadness!? Buddha was so confused (and confusion is a kind of main sin of the three worst sins in Buddhism) that he believed that hate was an entirely self-pain-causing thing and the opposite of lust (Buddha, not surprisingly, perhaps hatefully and deliberately) did not say LOVE or include it at least. I imagine it was either because he was demon-possessed or was mentally lazy and merely loved the attention he was getting from those gullibles who listened to him and so simply ignored how to deal with LOVE. And Buddha clearly was a narcissist, narcissists are shallow and malicious and beimg shallow have a poor emotionally-retarded/stunted understanding of “love”. They, in their infantile thinking, think love is little different than carnal lust, and like so many “LGBTQs” equate sexual gratification (even sexual assault) as LOVE. It’s a confusion and delusion caused by poor parenting or a sexual assault by either sex and/or bullying, especially over how they look. It’s too bad Tony was not a true Christian, he could have used his charm and voice for goodness, instead he’s like some proto-type anti-Christ. I wouldn’t even be surprised if he were the anti-Christ and ended up with one blind eye and a withered right arm.

False Teacher – Chuck Missler’s False Gospel Given On Coast to Coast AM

May 20, 2011 17 comments

Chuck Missler last night was on Coast to Coast AM. He appeared to be a loving saved Christian, but then I noticed at one point where he was using Coast to Coast to preach, gave a typical Arminian gospel (which is a misleading one that leads people to Hell and makes them “twice a child of Hell as … you” to quote Jesus), which is “accept that Jesus died on a the cross for you” MINUS ASKING GOD TO FORGIVE YOU. As usual, Christian-hater and fundamentalist-hater George Noory, who hates to listen to Christian preaching, and who knows that most of his audience does too (and is successful because he twists, avoids, and marginalizes it, like Chuck Missler does), stopped his Christian guest short (Chuck) when Chuck was preach his version of the gospel. It is possible that Chuck was going to say after saying that you must accept the lord’s death, that you must also ask him for forgiveness, BUT Chuck had two hours to make that point and was not shy to take advantage of the show, and it’s a crucial part of the gospel, yet Chuck did not mention it. This is how Arminians are. Why? It’s because being that they believe that they have goodness in them, they have pride, pride that they can have eternal peace apart from God’s goodness produced by this goodness in them, so then, they believe that they don’t truly need God’s forgiveness for eternal peace or perfect peace, and they also believe in their own goodness so much, they can’t accept that God would hate anyone. They also no doubt to me believe that they don’t need God’s forgiveness, because, “God doesn’t hate anyone.” No doubt to me they also believe that God wouldn’t hate anyone, because he already took his anger out on Jesus (which if they believe, is truly twisted: because they are saying that God hated his own perfect Son, but not those who refuse to ask God to forgive them for disobeying him/being imperfect) or on the sins that Jesus suffered for (which would be nonsensical, because sins don’t feel pain, they are actions, not living, or “objects of wrath.”) They are also evil in that they can’t accept that God would even hate a person if they weren’t good. So for all those reasons, is why they stop short at “Jesus shed his blood on a cross for your sins” and some perhaps, won’t even mention that Jesus suffered, or will avoid it, because it’s “distasteful” to them or they can’t believe that God would deliberately make anyone suffer, or that Jesus needed to. Or, they may believe that Jesus volunteered to suffer, and therefore was punishing himself, not God, but because they don’t think the suffering was important, but rather the blood-shedding on a cross and for many, baptism (which many Arminians obsess on as being necessary for eternal peace). They also believe that they have a completely free will, which can’t be influenced (which is an insane belief since it goes against common sense). They believe this because they hate God and want to be his equal, which is why they call themselves “sovereign”, and so they also believe that God can’t destine anyone, avoid talking about the parts of the Bible that mention destiny, or miscontrue it as “election” (that God elects whom he will save because he saw in the future that they would do good), and hypocritically, though they acknowledge that God is sovereign, refuse to accept that God has the same “rights” they they believe he gave to them, that he can hate whom he wants to, and decide what the future of his life will be (which includes how the lives of others will be).

These teachings of theirs are contradictory, because they admit that they have disobeyed God, admit that it’s so bad in God’s eyes, admit that they must repent, and that sin angers God so much, that he punished his only begotten son, a perfect son, Jesus, who was also God, severely, and so severely that figuratively, God says that, “he became sin.” But despite that, Arminians repeatedly fail to say that we must ask God to forgive us. This explanation I have given, makes it clear that Arminians are prideful and self-righteous (and again, they admit that they are good apart from God, or can be).

And because of they refuse to acknowledge that they are evil, that they need God’s goodness done in them to be good, and Christ’s good life up to his sacrifice as an appeasement to God for our lack of a good life and none sacrifice and inability to sacrifice ourselves without it being never-ending, they refuse to accept what is logical and reject common sense, and so are prone to all kinds of other errors, and life all those who are unsaved, often make hypocritical compromises, which leads to them further contradicting their main beliefs.

Chuck also believes that all the saved Christians will be raptured into Heaven so that they don’t have to go through the tribulation, taking this verse out of context:

“in a moment, in a glance of an eye, at the last trumpet. For a trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall all be changed.”

The context is made clear by Paul:

1Co 15:35 But someone will say, How are the dead raised up, and with what body do they come?
1Co 15:36 Foolish one! What you sow is not made alive unless it dies.
1Co 15:37 And what you sow, you do not sow the body that is going to be, but a bare grain (perhaps of wheat or of some of the rest).
1Co 15:38 And God gives it a body as it has pleased Him, and to each of the seeds its own body.
1Co 15:39 All flesh is not the same flesh; but one kind of flesh of men, and another flesh of beasts, and another of fish, and another of birds.
1Co 15:40 There are also heavenly bodies and earthly bodies. But the glory of the heavenly is truly different, and that of the earthly different;
1Co 15:41 one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars; for one star differs from another star in glory.
1Co 15:42 So also the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption, it is raised in incorruption;
1Co 15:43 it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power;
1Co 15:44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body.
1Co 15:45 And so it is written, “The first man, Adam, became a living soul,” the last Adam was a life-giving Spirit.
1Co 15:46 But not the spiritual first, but the natural; afterward the spiritual.
1Co 15:47 The first man was out of earth, earthy; the second Man was the Lord from Heaven.
1Co 15:48 Such the earthy man, such also the earthy ones. And such the heavenly Man, such also the heavenly ones.
1Co 15:49 And according as we bore the image of the earthy man, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly Man.
1Co 15:50 And I say this, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does corruption inherit incorruption.
1Co 15:51 Behold, I speak a mystery to you; we shall not all fall asleep, but we shall all be changed;
1Co 15:52 in a moment, in a glance of an eye, at the last trumpet. For a trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall all be changed.

If you can’t tell what the context is: it’s the second resurrection. The first resurrection happens when Christ returns, destroys the anti-Christ, false prophet, beast, and hundreds of millions or billions of evil people, and reigns for a thousand years. That happens AFTER the tribulation, or completes it. Here is the reference in the Bible to this first resurrection: “Blessed and holy is he who has part in the first resurrection. The second death has no authority over these, but they will be priests of God and of Christ, and will reign with Him a thousand years.” – Revelation 20:6.

Chuck was also being a hypocrite when George Noory told him that he was concerned that Harold Camping’s false prophecies (or predictions or interpretations of the Bible about when the end of the world would be) would lead some to suicide, and Chuck said he was concerned that it would lead some to disbelieve the Bible and that atheists would use it to blaspheme God. Yet Chuck is doing little different by also giving a false timing for the rapture. What will all those Christians who go through the tribulation think, and how will they feel, without that stable goodness of God in them, when the anti-Christ bludgeons them and persecutes them, and Jesus doesn’t come to take them out of their worry or doesn’t affirm that their complacency is a good thing? Will the majority of them think, “Oh no, the Calvinists were right” or “The Baptists and Presbyterians were right?” No: they will “fall away” and “betray one another” and some or many will rationalize taking on the mark of the Beast because they can’t believe that God will have left them behind, and that as many of them believe I’m sure, the mark is really “a computer chip that is implanted into you”, and some will probably realize they were wrong, and out of greater hatred for God for not giving them there way, will take the mark in an attempt to harm God through such provocation. Some will probably disbelieve the Bible and commit suicide, seeing how bad the world gets or because of the severe persecution, and not having God in them to help to “not fear those who kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul.” (Matthew 10:28)

The Arminian’s Confusion Over The Will and Man’s Sovereignty

Many Christians and pseudo-Christians, like Mormons, are Arminians, or have Arminian-like beliefs. The Mormons no doubt have them because their founder, the narcissist sociopath Joseph Smith, knew of a major split between various Christians, that which was between those who believed in predestiny and those who believed that man was in control of his future and Joseph also believed that the U.S. Constitution, was divinely inspired, though it was really a creation of deists, perhaps influenced by what they learned from some Indian/Native American tradition or laws. The U.S. Constitution that mankind had “inalienable rights”. Inalienable means “Incapable of being repudiated or transferred to another” and repudiated in part, means, “reject as untrue”. And “right” in that context, means, “An abstract idea of that which is due to a person or governmental body by law or tradition, nature or God.” And the Deists believed that mankind had the right to liberty and to pursue a life of happiness. The Bible does teach that you have the option to attempt to have liberty, which means, “freedom from servitude, confinement or oppression” and to try to be happy, and that it is natural to be happy over certain things, but it doesn’t teach that liberty and happiness itself are something you will have in life, though it seems that most people get to experience being happy at least one time in their life, the exception being maybe babies that are born severely deformed or incomplete, or people who are always in severe physical pain. A confused person, like a narcissist might think that liberty and happiness was guaranteed to him by God and also a person who resents God’s authority and control over them, and so it shouldn’t be a surprise such people would obsess over their “rights”, and even turn them into major religious teachings like Arminus (the founder of Arminiasm) and Joseph Smith did. Joseph Smith’s cult has their own fancy phrase for the will, calling it “free agency” in an attempt to make themselves sound wise and to distinguish themselves from other cults and the Christians (and which is a term that leads to further confusion). Joseph Smith even made his own attempted replacement or out-doing of the Bible, called “The Book of Mormon”, and stupidly included the words “rights” and “liberty”, repeatedly, and ended up sounding like a poor imitator of various speeches made by the “founding fathers”. The Book of Mormon ended up being littered with punctuation and grammar errors and major plagiarism from the Bible that he attempted to out-do. Joseph Smith also tried copying it’s literary style, and failed often due to his ignorance of Old English grammar. He even copied the italics in the King James Bible into the Book of Mormon, making it even more obvious that he wasn’t divinely inspired, but a forgetful and lazy idiot, and whose fatigue (caused by his making his long rambling work while sinning and desiring to sin), hindered him. And so again was fulfilled these verses: “Let God be true and every man a liar.” (Romans 3:4) and “For the wisdom of this world is nonsense in God’s sight. For it is written, ‘He catches the wise with their own trickery’.”

As I’ve taught before, there is no conflict between “free will” and God destining everything he made. The confusion is over what “will” means and what it is, something which opinionators and God-haters keep misdefining. A will doesn’t mean “a thing which is free and makes choices freely without influence”, which is where the illogical term “free will” comes from. And if the will is free, then “free will” is a redundant phrase. But the will is a part of the human mind that makes choices, but choices which are influenced, and choices which aren’t always able to be fulfilled, and choices which God does not have to respect or love, if they are against what he says is good. And God can influence people perfectly, and doesn’t need to do so directly in all instances, for him to cause to happen what he wants to. He can get what he wants indirectly, in various ways. He designed the universe and gave it the direction he wanted, knowing what would happen, and what would happen when he permitted things and commanded things and directly intervened. So, he has pre-destined everything, and there is no getting around that. No scheme will change that, and no teaching will make it less true; God is sovereign, and his will never fails, and we are under his influence, in this universe, which belongs to him, not us.

Update: 5/20/2011, 11:20

George Noory has yet another Christian on named Dr. Joye Jeffries Pugh, who is also teaching the rapture is a non-judgment day event, who at 8:44 AM I just learned was most likely saved (I’ve been talking to her). She taught that the rapture happens after the tribulation as far as I can remember from the show, but I’m not sure. I’m trying to find out now.

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The Anti-Fundamentalist Fundamentals Church That Went Nowhere

June 29, 2010 2 comments

Jonathan Flores, No Ordinary Singer: Pastor Galen!: This Satanic person just shows up out of no where judging and legalizing and misquoting the Book of Quotes and talkin’ bout’ kissin’ on the lips n’ nakededz stuff people in bikinis! He was so negative and unholy and of Satan. I used my highest speechems and wordums on him to show him whose boss n’ smartiest, but he was juz stubborn as a Jew’s stiff neck, the Christ-murderers! (Jonathan says while clutching a Bible to his chest with a look of great distress).

Pastor Gas-Money Galen: Well holy shuckems that sounds horrible. Well ya know Jonathan, you know what I always say about such people.

Jonathan, Magnifique Musicial One: What’s that oh great and wise pastor who “hears from God”?

Pastor Gas-Money Galen: “Yah reap what yah sow son.”

Jonathan, Seer of Great Tunes: *smiles* Aw shucks I love it when you call me son, makes me feel equal to high second in command master Dustin, super pastor. And heh heh, huh, yeah, “reapin what’s sown”, so true indeed it’s obvious and apparent.

Pastor Gas Money Galen: Satan will gettem’, always gets the nay-saying Nellies. He’ll teach those who speak against us and our word a lesson they’ll soon not forget, for we are the true and most righteous and wisest of Christians, which is why my prophecy of our church moving soon came true. Shaytan has power Jonny, mark my word, that dark devil demon from Hell has power, great power. Big power.

Jonathan, Worship Master Extraordinaire: Wait what?

Pastor Gas Money Galen: You questioning my version of reality son?

Jonathan, MASTER of SONG and… DANCE: Oh no way, I’m not into that legalistic stuff, no way. Hey there’s a dull spot on your boots. Really tiny but I can see it, should polish that out even though it’s as small as a gnat. Want me strain at it?

Pastor Gas Money Galen: Oh a speck isn’t going to bother me, that’s not manly.

Jonathan, Singer
: Oh yeah yeah you’re right, ignore I mentioned it then.

Pastor Gas Money Galen: Forgotten and forgiven.

Jonathan, Musician: Jesus is Lord!

Pastor Gas Money Galen: Hey, I think I’m hearing from God.

Jonathan, Majestic Musician: Really, wuh, can I hear? What’s he saying? I mean what’s he obviously apparently saying?

Pastor Gas Money Galen
: He’s saying “Go get something to eat, for soon we’ll need full bellies to move the church, and that will be soon.”

Jonathan, Lover of Music: But you just said…

Pastor Gas Money Galen: Jon, don’t be negative.

Jonathan, Songmaster!: Oh oh yeah that’s right, be positive.

Pastor Gas Money Galen
: And not legalistic.

Jonathan, Special Maker of Tunes: And not legalistic.

Pastor Gas Money Galen: “I pledge allegiance…”

Jonathan, Holy Golfer AND Musician: “I pledge allegiance…”

Pastor Gas Money Galen: “To obey the Galens, like they are God’s voice on Earth…”

Jonathan, Master Player of Synthesizers: “To uh…”

Pastor Gas Money Galen: Damnit son what’s wrong with you? Must you question my every word? Just obey! Don’t question, don’t hesitate, don’t think, don’t go to Scripture, just obey okay!

Jonathan, Master of Master Musicians, Almost: Geeze gosh okay, please just keep your voice down don’t humiliate me in front of the others or kick me out of the synagogue ok? That would be a shame I could not bear, for I love to play music and to get the great attention and praise I receive from it. I like watching the youths hug each other real close and sensual too from the view I have after I’m done turning them on to the Lord, doesn’t distract me a bit to see that.

Pastor Gas Money Galen: Now you ARE hearing from the Lord oh Jonathan like of the Jonathan of Biblical ancient old apparent obvious times.

Jonathan, the Manly Musician: *Smiles*: I love you.

Pastor Gas Money Galen: *Raises his eyebrows*: I love you to son. Don’t worry me anymore with hesitation. Be quick to obey and agree when I speak, be positive.

Jonathan, Who Sings Like He?: Yes: I understand master Galen, *he says in a robot voice* (as if he’s lost his sacred sovereign golden free will, untouchable… except like when demons possess you, so dare not God control a person’s will, that’s demonic!)

Pastor Gas Money Galen: *Slaps his hands together* good boy, now lets fill up at Flying Star. I love that place, such decadent chocolate.

Jonathan, Who Sees the Notes As They Truly Are: That’s obvious and apparent.

Pastor Gas Money Galen: Uh, yeah. Man you use big words you know that? That means you’ve got smarts. I ad-mire ur skillful use of uncommon words

Jonathan, Who Hath Power Over the Tones as He?: *Smiles a big manly cowboy smile* and says, “Hey that’s my word, ‘admire’. *Suddenly Jon looked serious and looked at Galen’s chest*.

Pastor Gas Money Galen: What?

Jonathan, He Can Sing!: Um, do you think I sing the same songs too many times?

Pastor Gas Money Galen: What? Don’t be silly. That’s like, that weird negative crazy talk that crazy people talk. Man I love your little ditties. They’re serene and comforting son, and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise, repeat and replay all you want. So, no more such paranoid talk.

Jonathan, Who Uses Big Words (and he can play the piano): Thanks that’s sweet of you, I really feel better, more positive and inspired, less rigid and dogmatic. Such is indeed that which is an apparent judgment of truth.

Pastor Gas Money Galen: Man you are so smart… now lets go.

Pastor Gas Money Galen and his trusty third in command, sort of, side kick Jonathan Awesome Repeater of Songs and Tunes goes out the office door headed for Flying Star Cafe, eager to fill up their manly bellies on smooth, delicious, classy, preppy (and manly) chocolate cake.

A little while later the anti-Christ showed up to begin his mass murders of beautiful white Christians, with some blacks and hispanics among them, and one Native American, but Jesus took them up and their chocolate cakes plopped (and in the case of the Native American, his MSG filled generic can of half-opened beans) spilled and hit the ground as they flew up into the clouds with Christ, Christ who was invisible to the world lest it be counted as the second coming of Christ, which would be really confusing.

Later, some people reading Bibles and remembering Jonathan’s “Accept Jesus Into Your Heart and That’s Salvation Tour” remembered the title of the tour, and became saved, but then the anti-Christ chopped their heads off because mainly they blacks and hispanics, and God doesn’t care as much about them as whites. But in the end, the Christians got their heads back and Satan lost. The end.