Here is more evidence that the Assemblies of God church is a cult. This is an email conversation to a oddly behaved (as in he acts mentally ill) flippant, and rigid youth pastor at GV Christian church who, when his brother Patrick, whom he knew was mentally ill, appeared on the church grounds, allowed him to take charge in helping me, not telling me a word about him being SEVERELY mentally ill:
On Mar 7, 2013, at 5:05 PM, Daniel… wrote:
Hi, I’m Daniel, I talked to you earlier about your brother, the one who showed up at GV Christian the night you were doing something or other with the teens there, the one whose name was Patrick. I forgot your name, sorry I have a brain problem with peoples’ names, literally. But there is still a major problem as I told your assistant, your brother still has or did have one of my pocket radios which I needed for time and for what a radio does, that thing was $45, and worse he has or did have my Canon SX50 battery charger. Without that charger I’m nearly forced to constantly guard my camp. It already cost me two million dollar recordings I could have made of these two homeless narcissists who keep attacking me, vandalizing my camp, stealing from me and harassing me. One ranted in front of me and wouldn’t go away for 15 minutes, another did so for 6, the value on YouTube for entertainment and learning purposes of those was enormous, that is why I said million dollar. However, I also needed it for safety and so I’m not stuck at my camp constantly having to guard and stay awake, which is killing me. Yesterday the one who ranted for 15 minutes called the police on me to try and make me look like the bad guy, that could have cost me not just my life, being forced to live on the streets or in a worse location that I wouldn’t have made it at, but the police said they’d take and dump my property, which is millions in value. But I can’t and won’t sell it because of my desperate situation and don’t want to be taken advantage of as has always been the case in my life, with people preying on the fact that I am poor. In fact I got conned again by a gambling addict who kept lying through his teeth about such and such, and lost three dollars. I should have known better when he moved my property over to sit next to me and then asked to sit next to me, ugh. But anyways, can you please either recoup the money I need and or directly order what was stolen from Amazon or Walmart and give me the radio and battery charger or find out where Pat put them and retrieve them immediately somehow? My life is in danger!
On 3/8/2013 7:40 PM, Steve Withey wrote:
I am sorry you feel I owe you. I, however disagree.
You are a grown man. You are responsible for your own actions.
Patrick is a grown man. He is responsible for his own actions.
I am a grown man. I am responsible for my own actions.
I am not responsible for any choices Patrick made any more than I am responsible for any choices you have made, any more than you are responsible for any choices that I have made. As functioning adult human beings we are each responsible for our own actions.
I am sorry you lost these items. It is, however, not my responsibility to replace them. I went out of my way to get you help last week and to get you your missing items back. I will not be taken advantage of though. Do not contact me about this matter again.
If you disagree or feel you need to take this further, then I encourage you to contact my employer at my second job at the… Police Department. Or, if you like, I can contact them myself and we can meet at the main station on Water Street to resolve this.
Associate Pastor, GV Christian Center
Campus Pastor, The FIX – Sunday Rock Church
Lead Pastor, The Differents – Youth & Young Adults
“You’re not making sense: you are your brother’s keeper, that includes me and Patrick, to simply say, “It’s all your fault” is irresponsible. That is as stupid and short sighted as if you had let in a crazed gunman or a known thief and didn’t warn anyone and let him help whoever. Your irrational thinking makes me think you are mentally ill or, being a false Christian, have severely corrupt judgment. You do know that eternal life is given now and is not temporary, but eternal don’t you? I can tell your church is false. The two members you sent to help retrieve my items didn’t even have a solid church doctrine, but rather cast off any solid beliefs to “that’s too extreme” and couldn’t tell me anything specific about what they believed that wasn’t contradictory. The same went for another member I encountered. Your pastor is also rude and hostile, what does that say about your church? To simply say, “You’re a grown man” is a fob off. Jesus himself said, “Whoever knew master’s will and did what was wrong will be beaten with severe blows, but the one who didn’t will be beaten with few blows” not, “They’re all equally responsible, their grown men.” God did not say, “Cain you’re not your brother’s keeper, he’s just some guy you killed.” Ironically, you’er hypocritically making excuses for yourself rather than accepting responsibility for your own irresponsible actions. If you know someone is a danger, and you say nothing, you are no better than a watchman who sees danger coming to the sheep, and says nothing. You are like a thief who doesn’t enter by the gate, but jumps over, and when trouble comes you run and go for a vacation.
Your reply will be posted on my blog as further evidence of what the Assemblies of God cult is like. Even the two you sent me, one of them, gave me $20, AND THEN TOOK IT BACK, only give me a few dollars. What in THE HELL was that? Taking back a gift that was just given?!
Now, being that YOU ARE THE BROTHER OF PATRICK and know him, please call him and ask what happened to the items, stop being a man who does not love his neighbor as himself, but is only interested in himself.”
I then followed up my reply soon after this one with:
“And Steve, your reply is also unbiblical and telling of your incompetence in Scripture, as it typical of Assemblies of God youth pastors and head pastors, in that you imply you will disobey Scripture by going outside the church for judgment. What does God say about you?:
[(I sent this to Steve as a third reply as I forgot to put this after “What does God say about you?:”)
1 Corinthians 6
New International Version (NIV)
Lawsuits Among Believers
6 If any of you has a dispute with another, do you dare to take it before the ungodly for judgment instead of before the Lord’s people? 2 Or do you not know that the Lord’s people will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases? 3 Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life! 4 Therefore, if you have disputes about such matters, do you ask for a ruling from those whose way of life is scorned in the church? 5 I say this to shame you. Is it possible that there is nobody among you wise enough to judge a dispute between believers? 6 But instead, one brother takes another to court—and this in front of unbelievers!
7 The very fact that you have lawsuits among you means you have been completely defeated already. Why not rather be wronged? Why not rather be cheated? 8 Instead, you yourselves cheat and do wrong, and you do this to your brothers and sisters. 9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God?]
It’s amazing to me Steve, that you’d rather risk a multi-million dollar lawsuit against you and your church, clearly you don’t care about the church let alone the cult you’re in, rather than helping me get back the little I’m asking for. Truly, you show you are not saved, and no amount of, “Well I disagree, let’s talk to the police if you want, I’ll even call them” will change that, it will only condemn you further. Stick with Scripture, stick with logic, stick with love, not retaliatory words and resentment and worldly excuses.
And Steve, no one is saying, “It’s all your fault,” but you, as a leader, as Jesus himself said, are far more responsible for the situation that occurred than me. YOU ARE LEADER OF THE CHURCH, YOU KNEW YOUR BROTHER, YOU KNEW I WAS NOT FAMILIAR WITH YOUR CHURCH AS A STRANGER.
So cut out with the, “You’re all grown men, but not me, I’m above judgment, just blame Patrick and press charges on him if you want.” Remember what you said the next day when I came to you for help, this time to undo the damage your brother did? You said, something like, “You can press charges against Patrick if you want, he’s a grown man” as if you had nothing to do with what happened, as if you were just an innocent bystander. You think that’s being a mature and grown man? Tell me Patrick: was I silent? Did I just say, “Doh, Patrick stole from me, I’m going to do nothing.” Or did I come back to get help from you?
And again: what’s with the pastor you are under, Vick? He told me to go to your help center for help, and when I went there for help, he ended it with, “Now I’m going to have to ask you to leave the premises, your business is finished here.” Rather than letting me finish it, and ask for what I came to ask, he concludes it for me. If you approve of his behavior Patrick, that further condemns you.”
For those of you wondering what exactly I’m talking about when I refer to my camp, what happened was, as my Twitter feed records, was that my apartment community manager had been harassing me along with some other sort of manager, and illegally, literally illegally evicted me, lying to a judge about giving me a five day notice in order to justify a 24 hour notice, without explanation as to why it was given, and despite my rent being paid off.