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A Letter to Eben Alexander, on his NDE experience

I am to the point person, one, because I’m in chronic pain, two, I don’t like wasting time, not that I risk rudeness. But this is what I want you to know, I’m a scholar, 20 years long, in theology, that is, the study of morality. That exceeds what you were talking about on Coast, and no doubt your book: feelings. You have given the same kind if description of your NDE, as you yourself acknowledged others have given of theirs (which would include how their philosophy of life was affected, including God).

Things you have apparently not considered, or at least seriously, apparently because you weren’t aware of it, at least not well:

Scripture teaches that Satan can affect memory, by suppressing it, thereby “blinding” a person, and implies he can also affect our emotions, hardening our hearts (making us stubborn), and reincarnation, if the Bible is true, which I and millions of others have studied sincerely, with fervent prayer, to God, to understand clearly and correctly, if that book which claims to be his word is true, than reincarnation is clear evidence that Satan can create false memories so real, that the person thinks they are true. Consider that seriously, not lightly.

Second: you have clearly dismissed in your bias based on your experience, and your way of life, that those who have experienced Hell are people whose testimony are not worth time considering. That is clearly biased. Consider Angie Fenimore’s experience then.

You said that you were told while in your coma and in this paradisaical place you described, that you were there to learn. You didn’t say necessarily to learn everything at once at that place or everything there at all. So now that you’ve “returned” consider that you were meant to learn about your experience from those who are here, including me, including from the Bible, and that your experience was a verification of the Bible. You yourself said that your dad was not there. Then where was he? If he wasn’t in Heaven with you, where was he? Someone might argue, “He was on a special mission” and/or “And it may have been a test to see if Eben would turn against God”. But what kind of test is that? But if on a special mission why didn’t even the lowest of the angels or humans that had passed on say, “You’re dad’s okay,” or “too busy to say ‘hi'”? And as for a test, that would be one weak and odd test, that just because you didn’t see your dad during a Heavenly or Heaven-like visit, to see if you’d hate God over that or not, and while or remembering the feeling of supernatural love and seeing glorious sights. Rather, as Eben sensed, it was like glaring error of some sort. And consider, what being is known for getting love wrong and using shallow attempts to deceive through strong emotions, through passion? The one and only, Satan. Demons are known for not getting human psychology right when it comes to being good, understanding and loving towards them, but rather, being just the opposite, and arbitrary. That would explain why some demon or Satan overlooked something so obvious as to show Eben his dad well and happy, or even tell him, “You’re dad decided to reject God, so he won’t be with you forever, but don’t be angry at God for this, lest the same happen to you, or lest you be punished for a while.” And perhaps Satan or whatever demon was working with him didn’t add that on, because, as is the case for some demons it seems, like when they encountered Jesus, they fear the thought of punishment, or, whoever it was deceiving Eben was afraid that that message would be too close to fundamentalist Christianity, which is the true religion. Perhaps they chose not even to try the “obey God or you will go to Hell” line, either due to being tired of that misleading message (as a message of how to be saved/forgiven it is) or were afraid Eben which his high intelligence, might figure out that that message was misleading and realize the true way with some study of the situation, and instead wanted to lead him down some sort of New Age reincarnation path in the end. It seems more plausible to me however that the demon either forgot about family for the moment, or perhaps was expending so much energy creating the false illusion that it had no mental energy or power left to create anything further at the moment, like a fake image of his dad, and perhaps no other demons were around to help out because angels or God was directly preventing any further deception. Regardless, it was still a test, a test to see if Eben would continue to seek the truth, or make an assumption: that God was the one communicating with him, and not something with potentially evil intent using positive feelings to blind Eben and mask the evil intent. People try and deceive each other like this all the time. Something else to note is New Agers never, in my many years of studying them, ever consider that an “ascended master” type human or some alien being of that type, would even be evil, or turn evil, or like in the Star Wars world, master supernatural powers and use them for evil rather than gaining them through good deeds or at least without any intention of hurting anyone. To me that is just another evidence that there really is a Satan who is supernaturally blinding the world in various ways (though not every single person) so that they don’t think of obvious things like that. There are evil humans, even evil people know that, even a so called nihilist might admit that though denying evil exists, and if spirits can exist, why wouldn’t there be an evil spirit? Why would simply being a spirit automatically make it good? And if humans have a good spirit, wouldn’t they all be good if that were so, or struggling to do so? Yet clearly, far from all humans desire to do good, but are only bent on doing evil.

Perhaps you will know at least where he will go from reading the rest of this letter to you and others who believe the version of God you believe in:

Feelings alone are not any kind of teaching that is specific on what is right or wrong, anymore than nature is, with few exceptions. There is the instinct, and conscience, and minor things that can be learned from observation, common things, like that it is natural for a woman to wear her hair long, to have hair on her head at the very least, which helps make it easy to identify she is a female, and which helps to attract males, in order to procreate. However notice how I had to explain that, it is not self explanatory. The same is true concerning right from wrong, morals, as well as right and wrong methods in order to accomplish goals not directly related to morality, like how to walk through a door. No amount of “amazing love” can teach you how to open, and walk through a door. No amount of anger can either, or curiosity. It can motivate you, and that’s the point in part, but love doesn’t say, “Walk through this door” that is rather a subjective interpretation. Now also I will tell you I am a scholar of philosophy, specifically the most important part: informal logic. Both informal logic and theology, specifically morals and God, are the most important sciences, or systems of knowledge. Without either there can be no understanding of truth, of true from false, determining what love is or hate. You seem to have become puffed up to some degree based on your NDE. It is similar to how the Bible talks about those who have become puffed up because they saw an angel or angels. The same is true for many things, UFOs, bigfoot (there is more than one type, just as with monkeys), seeing a famous singer at a concert, and so on. They are tests from God, to see, as he said in the Old Testament, if you will follow things other than him.

In your talk you gave an illogical description of Hell, calling it an imperfection. However there is no basis for calling it that. You called it that as you yourself said, because you experience great love, that is nonsensical: great love doesn’t define what Hell is or describe it as an imperfection. That is a baseless subjective claim, an opinion. Great love, nor love period, cannot speak words. Some people wrongly take the Bible out of context and say, “God is love” to refute any claim that God would ever harm anyone or get angry. But clearly God is not an emotion, but as you said, has thoughts, and knows everything. It is also illogical to exclude verses which do not elicit the emotion of love in you. Is it wrong for God to be angry at evil? Why, if so? If it isn’t, why then can he not be angry at an evil person, someone who is evil? You made another error concerning that:

You said, “We have free will” but did not explain yourself, so then committed the fallacy called “Begging the Question.” Free will is not a justification for doing evil, nor is learning. God still holds those who do wrong accountable for what they do wrong, morally, regardless of whether or not they were meant to learn a lesson. The same applies for those he forgives. Punishing a person or being angry at them for doing wrong does not negate “learning” anything, whether by those observing that which was wrong, or by those who did wrong, nor does having a free will make everything “not evil, but just learning”. That is clearly not true when abusing a child, murdering, and doing any evil act that is not in retaliation against anyone for a wrong, but for there mere pleasure of it, as psychopaths are known to do.

Furthermore, you, unlike me, clearly don’t know anything about psychology, specifically anti-social personality disorders. You claim that God wouldn’t make imperfect things, and he doesn’t, but how then do you suggest, you an imperfect person who believed what was false about God, even that he didn’t exist, what would you suggest to the all knowing God with unfathomable love do to deal with permanently mentally warped people, warped in an evil way? As Scripture says, “The boastful shall not stand before your eyes; you hate all evildoers.” Will a being that can be described as love and truth itself, subject itself to the endless evil thoughts of a narcissist or psychopath, or a hateful-filled arrogant person who has grown to be twisted at old age and is set in their ways forever? Remember you said we have a free will, and therefore isn’t God allowed to allow a person to remain permanently evil, or to become as bad as Satan is described, a person who has dedicated himself to doing everything wrong, whenever he feels like it, if he can do so? So then, again: will God be with such people, will he let them stand next to the good forever? Will he reward Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Mohammed, and other mass murderers and anyone who is hateful, with “Paradise”? Will he have a child stand forever next to the one who raped and abused her brutally, repeatedly till she died before becoming twelve? Will God have them be in the same Paradise together, or have that evil one next to anyone who is good? As God said, “Don’t be unequally yoked with unbelievers. For what partnership has righteousness with lawlessness? Or what fellowship has light with darkness? What accord has Christ with Belial? Or what portion does a believer share with an unbeliever? What agreement has the temple of God with idols? For we are the temple of the living God; as God said, “I will make my dwelling among them and walk among them, and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Therefore go out from their midst, and be separate from them, says the Lord, and touch no unclean thing; then I will welcome you, and I will be a father to you, and you shall be sons and daughters to me, says the Lord Almighty.”

Now how can an evil person, someone who has lived their life like Satan: doing as the felt rather than searching for the truth and goodness with all their heart, who reject the command of love:

“Do to others as you would have them do to you,” and to Christians, “Love one another as I have loved you.”? I explained it here: https://eternian.wordpress.com/life, the link is also above my journal at all times.

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  1. Bob
    April 21, 2013 at 7:02 PM

    Your comments are a wonderful counterpoint to Eben’s book. His experiences were about what lies outside the mind. Your so-called proof of his deception is evidence of what occurs when you’re trapped within the mind, especially one steeped in fear and stuck in dogma.

    • April 22, 2013 at 1:12 AM

      dog·ma
      [dawg-muh, dog-] Show IPA

      noun, plural dog·mas or ( Rare ) dog·ma·ta [dawg-muh-tuh] Show IPA .
      1.
      an official system of principles or tenets concerning faith, morals, behavior, etc., as of a church. Synonyms: doctrine, teachings, set of beliefs, philosophy.

      2.
      a specific tenet or doctrine authoritatively laid down, as by a church: the dogma of the Assumption; the recently defined dogma of papal infallibility. Synonyms: tenet, canon, law.

      3.
      prescribed doctrine proclaimed as unquestionably true by a particular group: the difficulty of resisting political dogma.

      4.
      a settled or established opinion, belief, or principle: the classic dogma of objectivity in scientific observation. Synonyms: conviction, certainty.

      Which definition are you using? You’ve committed a fallacy called Fallacy of Ambiguity, it’s also another fallacy called Begging the Question, because you make no point and simply make a mere claim. You have no argument other than an irrational one and where is your proof? None. You’ve therefore “broadsided” me. Learn what evidence, proof, truth and logic means. Hint: it isn’t whatever you feel it is. Get back to reality and stop deluding yourself. Prentention, huffing and puffing and using fancy speak isn’t proof of anything. Learn what narcissism disorder is while your at it. You speak like a narcissist.

  2. Molly
    August 23, 2013 at 12:15 PM

    Oh dear, I am sending you the LOVE I feel you are crying out for. [53 WORDS DELETED AND NEVER READ, WHICH IS WHAT YOU SPIRITUALLY DID TO ME BY NOT EXPLAINING WHY I WAS WRONG, BUT SIMPLY TELLING ME ABOUT WHAT YOU FEEL, HOW DOES THAT FEEL MOLLY?].

    • August 23, 2013 at 4:34 PM

      “Oh dear, I am sending you the LOVE I feel you are crying out for.”

      You’re mentally ill. Obey God who said “Love your neighbor as yourself” which he said is based on “Love the Lord your God with all your heart.” If you don’t do the last, you can’t do the first and are a CONNIVING hypocrite. And stop using pointless caps moron who judges with her heart and uses her brain to type out her heart’s idiotic reasoning. When will morons like you learn: the heart isn’t a brain, there’s fighting all around you, that there is fighting all around you. Guess why stupid? Oh you can’t figure it out? Guess why moron. BRAIN, USE IT.

      Stop being hateful. There’s a God, and it isn’t your silly evil self. Bye bitter idiot. And no moron I didn’t read the rest of YOUR HEART BABBLE. And why did you heart thinking putting love in caps would make you right? Because you’re a feelings idiot, you don’t make sense. One more time: BRAIN, MIND, GOD GAVE YOU THEM FOR A REASON. Am I literally saying you don’t use either? Your heart says, “YEAH HE’S BEING MEAN!” So you use your brain to say, “Oh dear oh my oh me oh my he needs love”. Rather than use your MIND TO THINK IF THAT IS TRUE. THE MIND IS MEANT TO LOOK FOR TRUTH, THE HEART CAN’T DO THAT, IT IS A FEELINGS BASED OBJECT. It’s the same as you using your heart to do math and then use your COMPUTER to type out the nonsense that would come from that and barely thinking, as if some sort of creepy being. I hope that was clear enough. And evil one, how wasn’t I loving? So pointing out the absence of a person’s dad after death = hate? MORON THEN THAT MAKES EBEN HATEFUL.

      But see: YOU NEVER MADE A POINT! SO THERE’S NO POINT ASKING A MORON LIKE YOU, “WHAT? DID YOU MEAN THIS, DID YOU MEAN THAT?” YOU’RE ARGUING IN DELIBERATE IGNORANCE AND A PERSON WHO IS SO FAR GONE YOU SIMPLY IGNORE WHAT YOU READ AND BASE AN ARGUMENT ON THERE MERE FACT THAT IT DIDN’T MATCH WHAT YOU FELT, YOU SAW I WASN’T ALL GLOWING OVER EBEN, THAT THERE WAS NO PRAISE, SO YOUR HEART SAID: “BE CONNIVING AND PRETEND TO BE LOVING, LOB YOURSELF AT HIM AND IGNORE EVERYTHING HE SAID.” Imagine if I did that to you and everything you said, would you accept that as loving? Of course not you hypocrite. Like Jesus said, “Do to others as you would have done to you” and said of the hypocrites like you, “they don’t practice what they preach.” You say “I’m loving” but don’t show it by comments like what you just left.

      YOU DON’T USE AN OPENING STATEMENT TO MAKE A HATEFUL COMMENT LIKE YOU DID: YOU ANSWER THE POINTS WITH REASON, YOU STICK ON SUBJECT, YOU DON’T VEER OFF AND SAY, “U NEED LUB”. Can’t a demon say that? Can’t a psychopath? YES. YOU = EVIL FAILURE, A HATEFUL PERSON. YOU DON’T CRY OUT FOR GOD’S LOVE, AND THAT IS WHY YOU ARE DOOMED FOR HELL. Stop worshiping yourself. It’s sick. And stop giving people your, “Cuz I said so” shit. Get some evidence, not your heart shit which you haven’t ever demonstrated is worth a cent or listening to. Simply SPEAKING doesn’t make you right, grow up and face that already.

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