Post link: http://westboro.tk or http://arminians.tk

This is a complete transcript copied off Facebook, of Arminians conversing with each other, and me joining in at one point and then being argued against by them, due to their inability to keep back their hatred for true Christians for long. There is a picture below of part of the page with some parts which I blanked out for privacy and security reasons, and only modified one part of the transcript to avoid confusion, which is where I said, “Let’s look:” which formerly was “Let’s lookL”, which was a typo. Here is the transcript, which shows how Arminians use childish, insulting and deceptive arguments, repeat themselves rather than listen to why what they’ve said is wrong, as if they were broken records, and contradict themselves in the usage of arbitrary and hypocritical arguments:
Curtis Reinas Prophetic Worship??? What the!?! Prophetic Worship??? Some one help me out here, PLEASE!!! Prophetic Worship??? SMH Um, could SOMEONE PLEASE SCHOOL ME on Prophetic Worship and where we see it in the bible…or is it simply yet ANOTHER WAY to make merchandise out of Gods people as “they” SELL their music. Prophetic Worship…biblical???
Friday at 9:52am · Comment · LikeUnlike
5 people like this.
Jeffrey Glen Wicker 1 Cor 14 is all bout prophecy in the corporte gatherings. i dont know what context you ar makin these remarks but it should be forth telling what god has finally said in Christ not new revelation (Heb. 1)
Friday at 9:59am · LikeUnlike · 1 personLoading…
Becky Stein
Revelation 19, “…that have the testimony of Jesus: worship God: for the testimony of Jesus is the spirit of prophecy. ”
John 4:23-24, “But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in tru…th: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.”See More
Friday at 9:59am · LikeUnlike
ALexander Ruiz Prophecy must line up with Gods word. There are people calling themselves prophets like crazy on Facebook, coming out the woodwork of profiting off of peoples ignorance…
Friday at 10:02am · LikeUnlike · 2 peopleLoading…
Brandy Conner Bell idk what you are referring to here, but I am a worship leader, and when I lead worship in song the Holy Spirit speaks to me and I sing out what I hear Him say. I’d say that is prophetic worship because I am voicing what God is speaking. It always encourages, corrects, etc.
Friday at 10:03am · LikeUnlike · 3 peopleLoading…
Ralph Dotson Smh Right wit ya Curtis,lol lol!!
Friday at 10:06am · LikeUnlike · 1 personLoading…
Prophetess Leesa Welch Brother Curtis…..FALSE Prophets are examples of the propaganda you speak of….please check your inbox in a few…but I will say that in Exodus 15:20-21 as the children of Israel crossed the red sea…Prophetess Miriam took a timbrel gathered the women and prophetically danced before the Lord.
Friday at 10:08am · LikeUnlike · 1 personLoading…
Prophetess Leesa Welch @ Brandy…. Amen THAT IS PROPHETIC WORSHIP…you sing HIS WORDS…
Friday at 10:21am · LikeUnlike
Jubilee Trumpet The Psalms are full of Davids songs and many prophetic of Christ, the word might not be there but it is there.
Friday at 10:39am · LikeUnlike
ALexander Ruiz Curtis pray for discernment. There’s to many self proclaimed prophets your right…many of them have on fancy clothes and are,all about the love of the world.Not to say God doesn’t have prophets in the earth…but as many as are on Facebook, just isn’t jiving…
Friday at 10:41am · LikeUnlike
Joe Brown Shatan is sneaky and slick. If someone is dancing around speaking in tongues, I’d be leary. Yashua is the way not a fruit loop possessed by a “spirit”. They make themselves out to be a prophet but I say where is the Christ like humility in that. From what I have seen, it’s more like profit than prophet.
Friday at 10:45am · LikeUnlike · 3 peopleLoading…
Prophetess Leesa Welch
@ Alexander..you are VERY correct in your words AND I agree that MANY call ‘themselves’ prophets, ministers, apostles,etc. on facebook and beyond. It is essential that the Lord calls and ordains one….. it is also essential to take and te…st the spirit by the spirit…. a prophet’s word should be THE LORD’S WORDS and NOT their own…. and I encourage ALL…. as I shared with Bro Curtis….. to test and try ANY & ALL words that He uses me to minister with the Word and Spirit….ask HIM how I am living….. I don’t mind… those in the ministry AND we as Christians are subject to line up our words and lives with Jesus!! AMEN!! :)See More
Friday at 10:55am · LikeUnlike · 2 peopleLoading…
ALexander Ruiz Amen! That’s my point when God uses one to speak to me ill know, as only Gods knows my inner man, what I’m facing. Indeed a servant of the Lord will never lead one from the book…Im speaking about those ear tickling profit lieing for a buck type of frauds…like revelations speaks about false apostles…
Friday at 10:56am · LikeUnlike · 1 personLoading…
Prophetess Leesa Welch @ Alexander… I know what you mean :)….it is also essential to remember that it is written that God HIMSELF will expose and correct those whose heart is entwined with false and perverse motives as they ‘minister’ to His people. Me, I pray for them that when they are enlightened by God…. that they will repent and seek after Jesus….pursuing an intimate relationship with Him!!!!
Friday at 11:04am · LikeUnlike · 1 personLoading…
ALexander Ruiz Me I defend the faith and by Gods Spirit reprove the deeds of darkness…I’m just sick of all the false teachings in America, the idols and strongholds… Share the gospel, fight the good fight…
Friday at 11:16am · LikeUnlike · 4 peopleLoading…
Rochelle Clark
Curtis, I just want to say that this biggest turn off ever that I had concerning any church or gathering or belief was when I went to a service with my mother. These people were making songs out of and mocking other peoples faith in God. an…d this was there practice of worship. I do believe that there is ignorance in man made traditions within the church that is not biblical, in many churches infact. Let us remember that God sees the heart of the believer and we are all in different places in Him. So please keep in mind that if you see this on someones posting or wall, I would suggest you pray for them and then maybe ( suggestion) in a spirit of humility and love approach them on a personal note? It may very well be that people are selling books and cd’s and other things that we may feel is not right but who am I to judge another mans faith publicly, when God looks at His heart. Could we not say of all of us that there are things we do out of ignorance or that we feel is right and others do not but if we were going to listen and hear someone else quoting even truth to us, wouldnt it be better recieved. Correction that is… From a heart of love and not judgement or condemnation, mockery or some sort of accusation?See More
Friday at 12:11pm · LikeUnlike
Ahn Matthews Yes Curtis and it seems someone always wants to have a title.
Friday at 2:05pm · LikeUnlike · 2 peopleLoading…
Loyd Parker Me..just a simple son of God, with the high praises of God in my mouth! Father in heaven, hallowed be thy name…….
Friday at 2:16pm · LikeUnlike · 3 peopleLoading…
Curtis Reinas
Worship is worship…I know what worship is and I also know the biblical definition of worship…but to “label” worship as “prophetic worship” is BEYOND me. These people don’t “write songs”, they “prophetically” or rather “spontaneously” be…gin to play music and then whatever comes out of them is “the song”…and then once the song is sung and recorded, they “title” the song, package it and then SELL IT.
So every single song EVER sang/sung for Jesus MUST BE “prophetic worship”. Am I wrong? Well according to some comments I would be EXACTLY RIGHT! Not that I agree with that.
Now WE ALL KNOW the DANGER of SELLING ANYTHING that God has freely given. COUNTLESS Christians SELL what God has FREELY given them and they make ALL KINDS of WORLDLY EXCUSES AS TO WHY ‘they’ have the right to over ride The Words of Christ, “Freely ye have received, freely give”. Whether it be “Christian books”, “Christian music”, “T-shirts”, “Bumper stickers” and the list goes on…BUT TO LABEL SOMETHING “Prophetic Worship” and then turn around and SELL IT??? Woe unto them! That’s BAD!!!
So, as far as “Prophetic Worship” goes…as of now, I AIN’T BUYIN IT! Not in merchandise OR in Truth. I was introduced to “it” many years ago and really thought nothin of it but that it was EXTRA SPECIAL music…well since “SOMEONE” loaded my in box with tagged videos of THEMSELVES “prophetically worshiping” (for marketing purposes ONLY as discernment has proven), I’m now QUESTIONING it…SERIOUSLY questioning it.
As far as the “titles” go here on fb or in person…if ANYONE gives themselves a title of “prophet”, “evangelist”, “apostle” ahem, forgive me, I almost puked…to me, that proves only ONE THING! They are NOT. And YES I DO BELIEVE in the existence of what “church” calls the “five fold ministry”.See More
Friday at 3:26pm · LikeUnlike
Curtis Reinas
Rochelle, I do understand!
…it’s when you’ve exhaustively given your all to show someone the error of their ways and you’ve ONLY used scripture IN CONTEXT to support Christ’s (The Words) view that we are not only able, but COMMANDED to re…buke and even reject that individual…been there, done that and even received my REJECTION from the apostate hirelings venomous tactics.
Simon the sorcerer was a NEW CONVERT, a literal BABE in Christ in Acts…go read it. Peter VEHEMENTLY rebuked him. So as I defend and confirm the gospel, sometimes i can be as harmless as a dove and as long suffering as Christ Himself, but at other times I can be as FEROCIOUS as a lion. Depending on Christs Spirit moving in me…it’s HIM in us, not we of ourselves…See More
Friday at 3:40pm · LikeUnlike · 1 personLoading…
Becky Stein Proverbs 8:13, “The fear of the LORD is to hate evil: pride, and arrogancy, and the evil way, and the froward mouth, do I hate.”
Friday at 3:55pm · LikeUnlike
Curtis Reinas …and I’m thinkin this “prophetic worship” stuff is OVERFLOWING with evil, pride, arrogance and SELF promotion. SMH
Friday at 3:57pm · LikeUnlike
Ann Blaha Prophets don’t sell the word given them from the Lord. The word of the Lord is free to all. When people make videos for sale, they are seeking fame and fortune. That goes for all the professional musicians that have made multitudes of videos for marketing.
Friday at 5:19pm · LikeUnlike · 2 peopleLoading…
Isabel Nalley what does “spirit and truth” have anything to do with what these people are trying to pull? just another marketing ploy
Friday at 5:30pm · LikeUnlike · 2 peopleLoading…
Dawn Reinas
Prophetic worship is just a name given to worship as led by the Spirit, it’s spontaneous. BUT, we should’t be recording it to sell to the masses. Writing books, selling songs, all freely given to them by God. What right do we have to sel…l anything that God gives to us freely? When you turn around and sell something like this, you are really saying “I wrote this song” and/or “I wrote this book/teaching” with an emphasis in ‘I’, and since I wrote it I have a right to sell it. So you, in a sense, give yourself credit for the wisdom that comes from God, and sell it as if its your own to sell. As if it belongs to you. What right do we have to sell something that God gave to us? NONE.See More
Friday at 8:57pm · LikeUnlike
Curtis Reinas SELF will NOT accept such truth wife…Freely ye have received, freely give is IGNORED all for the sake of S-E-L-F. After all, we are all sinners and Christ died for our sins and where there is no more remembrance of sin, we sinners can live anyway we so desire because Jesus loves us JUST THE WAY WE ARE!!! ALL LIES IN HYPOCRISIES!!!
Friday at 9:00pm · LikeUnlike · 2 peopleLoading…
Daniel Knight
Did you mean to say that Jesus loves as lying hypocrites? If so you should know that God doesn’t refer to saved Christians as such, but says that formerly we were drunkards, homosexuals, etc., so we are no longer hypocrites. It means in the… sense that we are no longer living a life in which all we do is sin, and sin less and less over all. And Christians can be identified because especially in public, they don’t want to be seen sinning, unlike people of the world, who with regards to at least certain sins, don’t care or show it off.See More
Friday at 10:58pm · LikeUnlike ·
Daniel Knight Also, Prophetic Worship sounds like a nonsense term, a typical catch phrase that silly Charismatics and Pentecostals (the type who believe salvation is in their hands and not God’s) would come up with. It sounds no more logical that Laughter Worship or meaningful than Spirit Worship, Joyful Worship, Mourning Worship, Listening-to-God-On-High-Worship, Anti-Satan Worship or other things you can invent like that. It’s silly. I just stick with the Bible and be content with the usual phrases that are more readily understood.
Friday at 11:02pm · LikeUnlike · 1 personLoading… ·
Tuyet Mai Thi Lai
freedom of worship>David sang, danced and played in all sorts of styles so there is freedom in worship, but do so with integrity.
the cd and book or even the bible publication> there are definitely finacial needs in the production line, some… expensive costs may involved but yes, we should sale or buy with spiritual discernment.See More
Yesterday at 7:24am · LikeUnlike
Daniel Knight Oops I meant “than Laughter Worship” not “that Laughter Worship”.
Yesterday at 9:43am · LikeUnlike · 1 personLoading… ·
Curtis Reinas Tuyet…what you just wrote does nothing for Truth at all. All you’ve done is justified NOT living by faith. ALL lies in hypocrisies
Yesterday at 10:29am · LikeUnlike
Dawn Reinas If God wants a book published then He will provide the financial means to do so because He can not go against His Word. So for all those who sell books and teachings and prophecies and music, and you cannot support yourself without charging you, then you are NOT hearing from God on the matter.
23 hours ago · LikeUnlike
Daniel Knight
Something though that you should know Curtist and Dawn, and everyone, is that I’ve found that is extremely difficult to get anyone to read anything I’ve written let alone a one page gospel explanation, unless your selling it. I don’t mean s…ell the gospel I’m just giving an example. These days many people, at least those with money to spend on “extras” see a free book, ESPECIALLY a religious one, as worthless if it is not priced, and I get the impression not priced at at least $3 or $4.99. This isn’t the attitude of everyone, and of course a poor person seeking spiritual help who has little would treasure such a possession, but for those with money to spend on things they don’t need to survive (so they think), will see such things as worthless or of little value. Of course they can change after buying it or getting it for free, but when many people see it has a price, they correctly get the impression that it has value and that it’s being sold because someone out there wants to buy it. That is why I intend to put my currently free books up for sale, so that it spreads into public bookstores and libraries. Do you see? Do book stores “sell” free books? And how many libraries do you know acquire books that had no price, that list anonymous works? I’ve never seen an anonymous author in a library, though of course there would be famous ones from ancient times there or within other books with a price and ancient books for which no price was known.
But for the sake of spreading the truth, a book should be given a price these days to get them into greater public view, rather than remaining obscure. I’ve had trouble, great trouble, getting my free books to be carried by churches even, especially Pentecostal / Assembly of God ones. And Arminians hate my works when they realize I am Calvinist and will not read them, except in hopes to find I’ve made an error perhaps, or to steal credit from me.
That doesn’t mean that you have to price a book and such a price to make a personal profit. But if you do, that doesn’t mean that the book has to be bought. For example everyone knows that in most American bookstores you can sit down and read a book every day till it has become worn out and never buy it, and you can even look and smell a little like a bum till too many people complain of course and starts cutting into the store’s profits.
You can also “sell” a book so to speak in such stores with the understanding that you are being paid for your preaching, like the way a pastor etc., gets a portion of the “Sunday” donations. So long as you are allowing your religious-subject-centered works to be read for free, there is no violation, and if a store forces people to pay before reading or reading past a certain part, that is not your fault, and regardless, at least whoever reads will be exposed to what you wrote and their attention focused on it. On top of that, if they keep the book or CD, whatever, in good condition, they can return it to the store for a profit and get money back.
And also keep this in mind, the apostle Paul was poverty stricken, and came to a point where he commanded certain Christians to give him what he needed to continue his ministry because they were holding back what he needed. So, it isn’t unreasonable that if a Christian is not even getting what he needs to survive let alone live decently, that he is doing no wrong if he is selling a religious work, so long as it does not contain the gospel, which truly should be free. But even if the book does contain the gospel, there is a “trick” so to speak, in which it can be unattached to the book, or like those annoying cards in magazines, simply be tugged out a little to free it.
Also, the Bible does indicate that many false Christians will betray the fewer true Christians in the last days, and that it will steadily get worse, and that many Christians will die in persecution, and that even the Catholics will be persecuted greatly by the Anti-Christ. So it isn’t as simple as you seem to imply, Dawn, “You’re not having enough faith in God’s word” or “You’re not listening to what God said (which is to have faith that he will give you what you need to survive). Also, it’s a wrong teaching to imply that when Jesus taught not to worry because he would provide what you needed to live decently, that he mean ON EARTH. That same misconception is used by pastors seeking to gain from their congregations and others with tithing, a concept which false Christians and even some true ones have twisted to mean giving of your money (which the Bible does not associate with tithing at all anywhere). So, it’s incorrect to teach that God will simply provide everything a Christian needs to do whatever good they want to do, he does not say, “I will give you x amount of money to do this at this time” or “Since you want to do this good thing I will give you the means to do it and you will live x amount of time.” It’s not like that, God’s will is done and he goes with his plans, not our will and plans UNLESS it matches his. Though the Bible does teach that the more righteous you are, the better chance you have in succeeding at whatever good you want to accomplish (as is taught by the “fervent prayer of a righteous man” verse, or however it is worded, and as is taught by some other verses).
If you are going to condemn the selling of religious works, condemn the selling of evil religious works, and rebuke those Christians with little to no ministry, who have little interest in furthering their ministry, who have money beyond what they need to live comfortably, who won’t give that money to a Christian who needs it more or who could better use it to spread the gospel or help Christians become better Christians. Remember that passage Jesus told, the riddle of the workers to whom were given money by their master, and one of them buried the money so that it gained his master nothing, and his master condemned him for it. Would Jesus condemn a Christian who used his money, especially a little money, to spread right teachings of the master into public stores all over the world for people to be saved? No way, unless that servant’s intention was to use the money he gain for evil reasons, or to waste it on excessive comforts, things that were not necessary for them to live a decent and stable life towards God.
But the kingdom of God is not about profit or selling religious works or services, but in having joy in the Spirit in things which are clearly good and cannot be argued against as being evil, so if a Christian offends you by such a thing within your church or near to you, let them know so they will stop, and at the very least, not do it where you will see it.See More
22 hours ago · LikeUnlike · 1 personLoading… ·
Daniel Knight
Every Christian should remember to pray strongly for wisdom in all of God’s word, especially that which God considers most important, and to let them know especially what would help them help others in their area rather than simply learning… what others already know and could tell them. Just remember, that the greater your wisdom in God’s word, the greater the risk you will fall into the sin of pride: boasting in what you know without giving any indication that God made it possible for you to learn what you did, and the greater judgment you will be under if you keep your wisdom to yourself when you know you should have shared it (a thing which false, though somewhat wise Christians, afraid of persecution, will definitely do, and by doing, add to their eternal condemnation).See More
22 hours ago · LikeUnlike · 1 personLoading… ·
Loyd Parker Whew! Long winded exhortation! Now let’s get to preaching Christ and Him crucified….doesn’t take as long, and a soul could be saved! Away with endless debates and bickering…Go preach the Gospel!!!
12 hours ago · LikeUnlike
Curtis Reinas Simply contending for the faith my brotha! simply contending for the faith…
12 hours ago · LikeUnlike
Loyd Parker I wasn’t referring to your comments, Bro. Curtis….some folks hog the “pulpit” and don’t know when to say “Amen”….Keep up your good stuff!
12 hours ago · LikeUnlike
Curtis Reinas I gotcha bro!
12 hours ago · LikeUnlike
Angelique Frew I am just as stumped. I have no idea what that is about.
11 hours ago · LikeUnlike
Tuyet Mai Thi Lai @ Daniel’s> ty for sharing the insight in this field :)
11 hours ago · LikeUnlike
Daniel Knight @Loyd Parker it’s actually arguing / bickering when you overgeneralize like you did and smear everyone as bickering, it’s little different then the hypocritical “you shouldn’t judge comment” which is a self-negating statement. And I was done talking about this…
10 hours ago · LikeUnlike ·
Daniel Knight @Tuyet Mai Thi Lai thankyou, and whatever I said true, it’s thanks to God.
10 hours ago · LikeUnlike ·
Daniel Knight @Loyd Parker “Long winded exhortation” The Bible is also a large exhortation, do you have a problem with it or any of Paul’s letters, which are much longer than mine here? Seeya.
10 hours ago · LikeUnlike ·
Curtis Reinas
Well Daniel, I’ve been holding back so I must now speak. My wife and I despise Calvinists BUT ONLY AS The Lord despises Calvinists. We HATE what The Lord HATES and we LOVE what The Lord LOVES.
What I see Loyd doing is simply taking what you… wrote and generalizing it as “long winded”. If you re read your comments, you actually revert back into the “promotion” of “selling” what The Lord has FREELY GIVEN you simply because no one will read “your” writings because there’s no price tag on it. Justifiable “lack of knowledge”. There is NO WAY anyone can take a wrong, mix things up a little but through “justification” of the wrong, and make it “right”.
Calvinism is a damned doctrine. We’ve studied it out and found it to be damnable AND heretical. Now I’m not here on this thread to debate the lies and deception of Calvinism…but my point is this, Christians for years have been “marketing” the gospel in so many ways, shapes and forms, depending on the arm of the flesh to meet their needs. “Prophetic Worship” is simply another manifestation of “depending on the arm of the flesh” in order to GET.
WHATEVER God gives to another, whether song, lyrics, inspiration, prophetic, healing…WHATEVER. Anyone putting a price tag on it is deceived and has been written of ALL through the True Testament of our God.See More
5 hours ago · LikeUnlike
Dawn Reinas Amen Curtis! Daniel, I do not agree. Selling teachings and prophecies is making merchandise of God’s people, period. The ends DO NOT justify the means. That’s really all to be said. Freely you have received, freely give. In other words, do not charge people for any inspirational music, teachings, wisdom, prophecies that you receive from God. Simple.
4 hours ago · LikeUnlike
Dawn Reinas And one more thing – Curtis and I do not agree with the doctrine of John Calvin. In researching that doctrine and studying the scriptures, that doctrine is found wanting.
4 hours ago · LikeUnlike
Daniel Knight
@Curtis Reinas “Well Daniel, I’ve been holding back so I must now speak. My wife and I despise Calvinists” – I could tell you were not saved because you rant incoherently and your wife spoke out against the obvious: which is that you can s…ell a book without actually selling it AND AT NO PROFIT TO YOURSELF, showing LESS CONCERN FOR THE GOSPEL OF ETERNAL LIFE AND MORE ABOUT JUDGING OTHERS REGARDLESS OF ANY GOOD THEY DO, LET ALONE SHOWING PEOPLE HOW TO GET ETERNAL LIFE, ONE OF THE MAIN COMMANDS OF THE BIBLE, neither of which are traits of a Christian who is forgiven of their sins. AND, your wife unfriended me and magically forgot why, and now that you say that you strongly hate Calvinists, it is obvious why she did so. It is also not a trait of a Christian to ignore obvious evidence kindly made available for you as to why it is heresy and blasphemy to claim that you can earn God’s love, let alone to do so and not even bother asking yourself if such a thing was possible after having read the Bible (you have read it haven’t you?).
And you also gave another sign that you are not saved, you said you despise Calvinists: to despise means “To strongly hate”. And ironically, the Bible refutes Arminianism in a few close-together concerning that AND THE TOPIC OF SELLING RELIGIOUS WORKS TO SURVIVE AND CARRY ON YOUR MINISTRY AND SPREAD THE GOSPEL OF LIFE TO PEOPLE WHO ARE IN NEED OF IT, WHO ARE NEEDY OF SALVATION:
1Jn 4:20 If anyone says, I love God, and hates his brother, he is a liar. For the one not loving his brother whom he has seen, how is he able to love God whom he has not seen?
1Jn 3:15-17 Everyone hating his brother is a murderer. And you know that no murderer has everlasting life abiding in him. By this we have known the love of God, because He laid down His life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for the brothers. But whoever has this world’s goods and sees his brother having need, and shuts up his bowels from him, how does the love of God dwell in him?
“We HATE what The Lord HATES and we LOVE what The Lord LOVES.”
Does “the Lord” Mr. “Lord Lord did we not sit with you” / “get away from you who when you saw the needy did not help them and so did not help me” – does the Lord say he hates Calvinists, for teaching, as I said on my previous profile when your wife was linked to it, and which is there now again: “GOD’S LOVE IS FREE”? And you also said,
“What I see Loyd doing is simply taking what you…”
And you meant talking with an L obviously, and as I said, you are ranting nonsensically: NO ONE simply “talks” who is trying to make points and has done so as Loyd, and I even with very short replies pointed out his stupid comments which also applied to you as I pointed out, and yet magically, he’s just typing words??????? Are you not blind to the utter obvious? If all Loyd was doing was typing out words, you’re saying than THAT HE WAS MAKING NO POINTS AND MERELY RANTING, IS THAT A CHRISTIAN THING FOR HIM TO DO? AGAIN YOU WHO ARE SO HARD TO SEE THE UTTER OBVIOUS WITHIN A SHORT SENTENCE:
IS IT CHRISTIAN TO CALL THE BIBLE LONG-WINDED, LET ALONE ONE OF PAUL’S LETTERS, AND TO IMPLY THAT WRITTEN WORKS WHICH ARE LONG SHOULD BE INSULTED RATHER THAN PRAISED IF THEY SAY ANYTHING GOOD AND WHOSE POINT FOR BEING WRITTEN IS TO CEASE BICKERING AND ARGUMENT? IS IT RIGHT OR WRONG TO CALL SUCH A WORK “ARGUING AND BICKERING” ITSELF? But that’s not insulting to you huh Mr. “I Despise My Brothers”? It’s “merely talking”.
Well by that crazed judgment, we Calvinists too, are “just talking”.
Goodbye Mr. Arbitrarily Defend Other Arminians For the Sake of Showing Your Strong Hatred for Those Who Teach That God’s Love is Free and that God’s Eternal Peace Made Free by the EXTREME LONG RIGHTEOUS SUFFERING OF GOD’S ONE AND ONLY SON JESUS CHRIST TO THE POINT OF BEING STRIPPED NAKED, NAILED TO A CROSS, SPEARED AND SHEDDING HIS HOLY BLOOD, AND DYING ON A LOWLY CROSS, ALL THAT IN PUBLIC, NEITHER CAN BE EARNED BY THE “FILTHY RAGS” FROM “DESPERATELY WICKED” MAN.
TAKE THAT TO HEART IF YOU HAVE ONE: GOD IS LOVE, NOT “GOD IS HATE” MR. AND MISSES “IT’S OKAY FOR US TO HATE BECAUSE WE MERELY JUST TALKED BY SAYING IT CAME FROM GOD.”
You are taking God’s place as is anyone, when you make a claim without evidence, especially on something that has to do with God’s character and salvation, which you despite your pretense, show that you care more about YOUR VERSION OF “LOVE”, AND YOUR VERSION OF “SALVATION” being made known, which you outright say is “despising” others, rather than loving your brother, and obeying the second greatest law: LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.
I hope this wasn’t “just talking” to you Mr. Attack the Calvinist for No Logical Evident Reason, but Defend the Attackers Who Argue and Insult and Express Evil Hatred for Christians Which They WITHOUT EVIDENCE Claim Is Righteous Hatred That Comes from God WHO IS LOVE.See More
3 hours ago · LikeUnlike ·
Dawn Reinas
Daniel I did forget why I deleted you, so do you think that your indirect accusation would just fly by me? Another thing, we are not Arminian.
And because you do not like what Curtis has to say to you doesn’t mean that he is not saved. Cur…tis hates the doctrine of John Calvin and so do I. It’s wicked and evil and makes Jesus something He’s not.
And you assume wrong by thinking we believe you can earn salvation. You are full of false accusations and assumptions on what we believe, and simply because we said we are not Calvinists. And most Calvinists we come across do this VERY THING. They accuse us falsely and pretend they know all their beliefs because they assume we are Arminian. They get angry if we don’t agree, they have accused Curtis of not being saved. And on and on and on….
Goodbye Daniel, if this is how you act then this is why I deleted you before. You told me privately you have problems socializing and are lonely and spending your birthday alone and all this ‘woe is me’ stuff – all in a private message which was inappropriate since I’m a married woman. And you go on and attack my husband in the flesh – well your original motives are clear. Why did you not write my husband privately with your lonely problems?
I guess it doesn’t matter to you right? You can sin like you did and still have the guarantee of heaven. After all, YOUR Jesus only atoned for the sins of some of the people and since you are the ‘chosen one’ then you can practice all the sin you desire and still die and go to heaven.
Goodbye Calvinist Daniel. At least call ourselves Christian – followers of Christ, and you blatantly make it known who you are a follower of – John Calvin.See More
3 hours ago · LikeUnlike · 1 personCurtis Reinas likes this.
Curtis Reinas
It’s called slander wife…something The Lord DESPISES ALSO.
What Daniel has written is typical for John Calvin followers. The very SAME Satanic spirit that over took John Calvin ALSO overtakes his followers. Since “they” can’t get us to con…form to their damnable heresies and join their schism, they do their BEST to categorize us into a schism (Armenian) which adamantly opposes Calvinism. It’s Satan’s OLDEST trick.
Look at Daniels comment how he falsely accuses me. Look at his anti-Christ rants, slander and vain attempt to condemn me by trying to make me “lend my mind” to the most vile of slanderous lies, “that I’m not saved”.
This only PROVES ONE thing…I AM saved! Not by my own WORKS by by Christ Who WORKS IN and THROUGH me! Praise The Lord ALMIGHTY for exposing the deceitful workers of iniquity and for CONFIRMING His Holy Word!
Psalm 139:17-24
How precious also are thy thoughts unto me, O God! how great is the sum of them! If I should count them, they are more in number than the sand: when I awake, I am still with thee. Surely thou wilt slay the wicked, O God: depart from me therefore, ye bloody men. For they speak against thee wickedly, and thine enemies take thy name in vain. Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.
Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts: And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting.
ONLY for the discerning AND The Faithful!See More
3 hours ago · LikeUnlike
Daniel Knight
@Dawn Reinas “Amen Curtis!”
And you give an Amen to your husband with an exclamation mark because…? What’s your evidence Dawn? Let’s lookL
“I do not agree.”
…
Oh, because YOU don’t agree, because YOU feel it is wrong then it should not be done, REGARDLESS OF MY “LONG WINDED” explanation as you to why you are wrong, you argue and bicker (no surprise you do that if your husband claimed Loyd’s comment was “just talking” and really made no point though and when he just ignored whatever good things I said and brushed off MY POINT FROM THE BIBLE WHICH SAUS NOT ARGUE OVER DISPUTABLE THINGS, DAWN). Does the Bible say, “Dawn and Curtis are God, do as they feel and do as they command?” NO. But since you have ignored God word which says not to argue about disputable matters, and I pointed out why it says that: I have replied again to you about this subject. What Dawn, was so hard to see about my “long winded” (rant), where I pointed out the Bible says not to ARGUE over disputable matters and TO CARE MORE ABOUT PEACE AND JOY IN THE SPIRIT? IN OTHER WORDS, TO SIMPLY OBEY GOD IN WHAT YOU KNOW YOU SHOULD DO? Where is the “Amen Daniel!” to that Dawn? Instead you obsess on your dogma and husband who cares so little for it, can hardly be bothered to make a grammatically correct sentence. And why not if this is life and death and you “love truth and hate lies” as you imply? If God strongly to the point of sending people to Hell FOR ALL ETERNITY (and STILL LOVE THEM, NOT HATES THEM, YOU ARBITRARY ARGUMENT ARMINIANS – AGAIN: YOUR OWN TEACHING IS THAT GOD LOVES THOSE HE SENDS TO HELL, SO WHY DO YOU SAY “AMEN CURTIS!” TO HATING THEM, AND NOT EVEN GIVE A LITTLE EVIDENCE FOR WHY YOU ARE RIGHT TO HATE EVEN ONE PERSON?) – IF GOD WILL SEND PEOPLE TO HELL FOR ALL ETERNITY, SHOULDN’T YOU HAVE ENOUGH CARE TO MAKE A GRAMMATICALLY CORRECT SENTENCE WHEN IT COMES TO SOMETHING YOU PUT IN CAPS AND SHOUT ABOUT, AS YOU DID HERE, WITH MULTIPLE QUESTION MARKS:
“Prophetic Worship??? What the!?! Prophetic Worship??? Some one help me out here, PLEASE!!! Prophetic Worship??? SMH Um, could SOMEONE PLEASE SCHOOL ME on Prophetic Worship and where we see it in the bible…or is it simply yet ANOTHER WAY to make merchandise out of Gods people as “they” SELL their music. Prophetic Worship…biblical???”
And here:
“SELF will NOT accept such truth wife…Freely ye have received, freely give is IGNORED all for the sake of S-E-L-F. After all, we are all sinners and Christ died for our sins and where there is no more remembrance of sin, we sinners can live anyway we so desire because Jesus loves us JUST THE WAY WE ARE!!! ALL LIES IN HYPOCRISIES!!!”
Would you like to go to an English teacher to confirm your sentences here are corrupt? Example, it’s “Lies in hypocrisy” not “hypocrisies”. Though that part is minor, your errors pile up and form rants over all. Instead of yelling crazily how about being calm so you can think more clearly which you obviously have a problem with, so great that it slipped right past you and your wife that you are misleading, that it is against the second greatest law to hate anyone, let alone that you treat God carelessly and are using him as a tool to promote your own gospel.
And Dawn, you used an evil tactic here:
“Selling teachings and prophecies is making merchandise of God’s people, period.”
Did I say “merchandise” anywhere? Did I say “sell crosses”? And where does the Bible say it would be wrong to sell crosses anyways? Christ taught not to turn the church into a store and to give what God gave to you for free, free yourself, and in context, he means the religious wisdom on what his word means and the gospel freely, not just whatever free gift he has given you. If we gave away whatever God gave to us for free, there would be nothing to sell since everything belongs to God and he lets us borrow it all, and you would be sinning yourself (and are in a way since you say it is wrong) by selling and buying anything, since, again, it all belongs to God (and is lent to us freely, OF GOD’S OWN FREE WILL). Or are you serious when you teach directly or indirectly that GOD IS UNDER THE WILL OF MAN? Even when you read that Christ said, and under extreme pain that would break any mere human: “But not my will, yours be done”?
I will not Dawn repeat the reasons, the clear reasons I gave for you saying that selling teachings and prophecies is wrong as you misleadingly say by oversimplying if with a sentence like that, another mislead, because you’re giving the impression that I said, “Sell the Bible and prophecies God gave you without letting anyone know what it was he said”, WHEN I SAID JUST THE OPPOSITE DAWN AND WHICH YOU JUST INSULTINGLY IGNORED BY STUBBORN REPEATING YOURSELF. How would you like it Dawn and Curtis if I said to you, “God is not love and there is no point in being loving like God” and you explain a large amount (long winded remember?) of good teachings to me from the Bible as to why God is love and why you should be loving, and I ignore it all and reply again with:
“No…! wroNG G0d is NOT love!!! and there’s no point in loving him AND JUST LOVING EVERYTHING THAT EXISTS!!!! which you said and believe in do you not?????????!!!!! Well but oh so wait you ChristianS so called!!! LIES IN HYPOCRIES IF THAT’S TRUE THEN I’M LOVING ME SOME SIN, AH HAH CHRITIANS CONTRADICT AGAIN! AMEN TO ATHEIST HUSBAND AND ALL MY ATHEIST FRIENDS! AND I LOVE DESPISING YOU CHRISTIANS!”
Wouldn’t that be an extremely disgusting response and something to truly despise to a great effort in love, love with patience? Yet you treated me the same way, showing contempt and “despising” for it, virtually saying that I am worthless, that any good I said is worthless, merely because, I’m a Calvinist, the same kind of reasoning racists use. Do you know what bigotry is or not care Mr. and Mrs. We Hate Christians Who Oppose Our Feelings In the Name of God?
“period.”
Dawn, “period” is not evidence, the force of your emotion is not evidence, your feelings are not evidence, period. The evidence for that claim?: Read the Bible, it implies that God’s word is to be used as evidence, not “I Dawn with confidence have said, “This is so, amen and period.” Or “If 5 billion Arminians say “Amen” then it is so.” That is false religion and a hatred for truth.
I’ll say it again: The Bible says not to argue over disputable matters but to take joy in doing what everyone knows to be right in God’s Spirit. So how about listening to your Arminian brother Lord at least, and ceasing arguing and bickering, and preaching “the gospel”? How about that gospel of eternal life, the eternal life that both Christ and John said is in those who love their brothers and enemies? Didn’t I put a link, and don’t I always, on my profile as to how to get that eternal life? So what is your excuse?
See More
3 hours ago · LikeUnlike ·
Daniel Knight
@Curtis Reinas “Well Daniel, I’ve been holding back so I must now speak. My wife and I despise Calvinists” – I could tell you were not saved because you rant incoherently and your wife spoke out against the obvious: which is that you can s……ell a book without actually selling it AND AT NO PROFIT TO YOURSELF, showing LESS CONCERN FOR THE GOSPEL OF ETERNAL LIFE AND MORE ABOUT JUDGING OTHERS REGARDLESS OF ANY GOOD THEY DO, LET ALONE SHOWING PEOPLE HOW TO GET ETERNAL LIFE, ONE OF THE MAIN COMMANDS OF THE BIBLE, neither of which are traits of a Christian who is forgiven of their sins. AND, your wife unfriended me and magically forgot why, and now that you say that you strongly hate Calvinists, it is obvious why she did so. It is also not a trait of a Christian to ignore obvious evidence kindly made available for you as to why it is heresy and blasphemy to claim that you can earn God’s love, let alone to do so and not even bother asking yourself if such a thing was possible after having read the Bible (you have read it haven’t you?).
And you also gave another sign that you are not saved, you said you despise Calvinists: to despise means “To strongly hate”. And ironically, the Bible refutes Arminianism in a few close-together concerning that AND THE TOPIC OF SELLING RELIGIOUS WORKS TO SURVIVE AND CARRY ON YOUR MINISTRY AND SPREAD THE GOSPEL OF LIFE TO PEOPLE WHO ARE IN NEED OF IT, WHO ARE NEEDY OF SALVATION:
1Jn 4:20 If anyone says, I love God, and hates his brother, he is a liar. For the one not loving his brother whom he has seen, how is he able to love God whom he has not seen?
1Jn 3:15-17 Everyone hating his brother is a murderer. And you know that no murderer has everlasting life abiding in him. By this we have known the love of God, because He laid down His life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for the brothers. But whoever has this world’s goods and sees his brother having need, and shuts up his bowels from him, how does the love of God dwell in him?
“We HATE what The Lord HATES and we LOVE what The Lord LOVES.”
Does “the Lord” Mr. “Lord Lord did we not sit with you” / “get away from you who when you saw the needy did not help them and so did not help me” – does the Lord say he hates Calvinists, for teaching, as I said on my previous profile when your wife was linked to it, and which is there now again: “GOD’S LOVE IS FREE”? And you also said,
“What I see Loyd doing is simply taking what you…”
And you meant talking with an L obviously, and as I said, you are ranting nonsensically: NO ONE simply “talks” who is trying to make points and has done so as Loyd, and I even with very short replies pointed out his stupid comments which also applied to you as I pointed out, and yet magically, he’s just typing words??????? Are you not blind to the utter obvious? If all Loyd was doing was typing out words, you’re saying than THAT HE WAS MAKING NO POINTS AND MERELY RANTING, IS THAT A CHRISTIAN THING FOR HIM TO DO? AGAIN YOU WHO ARE SO HARD TO SEE THE UTTER OBVIOUS WITHIN A SHORT SENTENCE:
IS IT CHRISTIAN TO CALL THE BIBLE LONG-WINDED, LET ALONE ONE OF PAUL’S LETTERS, AND TO IMPLY THAT WRITTEN WORKS WHICH ARE LONG SHOULD BE INSULTED RATHER THAN PRAISED IF THEY SAY ANYTHING GOOD AND WHOSE POINT FOR BEING WRITTEN IS TO CEASE BICKERING AND ARGUMENT? IS IT RIGHT OR WRONG TO CALL SUCH A WORK “ARGUING AND BICKERING” ITSELF? But that’s not insulting to you huh Mr. “I Despise My Brothers”? It’s “merely talking”.
Well by that crazed judgment, we Calvinists too, are “just talking”.
Goodbye Mr. Arbitrarily Defend Other Arminians For the Sake of Showing Your Strong Hatred for Those Who Teach That God’s Love is Free and that God’s Eternal Peace Made Free by the EXTREME LONG RIGHTEOUS SUFFERING OF GOD’S ONE AND ONLY SON JESUS CHRIST TO THE POINT OF BEING STRIPPED NAKED, NAILED TO A CROSS, SPEARED AND SHEDDING HIS HOLY BLOOD, AND DYING ON A LOWLY CROSS, ALL THAT IN PUBLIC, NEITHER CAN BE EARNED BY THE “FILTHY RAGS” FROM “DESPERATELY WICKED” MAN.
TAKE THAT TO HEART IF YOU HAVE ONE: GOD IS LOVE, NOT “GOD IS HATE” MR. AND MISSES “IT’S OKAY FOR US TO HATE BECAUSE WE MERELY JUST TALKED BY SAYING IT CAME FROM GOD.”
You are taking God’s place as is anyone, when you make a claim without evidence, especially on something that has to do with God’s character and salvation, which you despite your pretense, show that you care more about YOUR VERSION OF “LOVE”, AND YOUR VERSION OF “SALVATION” being made known, which you outright say is “despising” others, rather than loving your brother, and obeying the second greatest law: LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.
I hope this wasn’t “just talking” to you Mr. Attack the Calvinist for No Logical Evident Reason, but Defend the Attackers Who Argue and Insult and Express Evil Hatred for Christians Which They WITHOUT EVIDENCE Claim Is Righteous Hatred That Comes from God WHO IS LOVE.See More
2 hours ago · LikeUnlike ·
Daniel Knight
And you give an Amen to your husband with an exclamation mark because…? What’s your evidence Dawn? Let’s look[:]
“I do not agree.”
…
Oh, because YOU don’t agree, because YOU feel it is wrong then it should not be done, REGARDLESS OF MY “LONG… WINDED” explanation as you to why you are wrong, you argue and bicker (no surprise you do that if your husband claimed Loyd’s comment was “just talking” and really made no point though and when he just ignored whatever good things I said and brushed off MY POINT FROM THE BIBLE WHICH SAUS NOT ARGUE OVER DISPUTABLE THINGS, DAWN). Does the Bible say, “Dawn and Curtis are God, do as they feel and do as they command?” NO. But since you have ignored God word which says not to argue about disputable matters, and I pointed out why it says that: I have replied again to you about this subject. What Dawn, was so hard to see about my “long winded” (rant), where I pointed out the Bible says not to ARGUE over disputable matters and TO CARE MORE ABOUT PEACE AND JOY IN THE SPIRIT? IN OTHER WORDS, TO SIMPLY OBEY GOD IN WHAT YOU KNOW YOU SHOULD DO? Where is the “Amen Daniel!” to that Dawn? Instead you obsess on your dogma and husband who cares so little for it, can hardly be bothered to make a grammatically correct sentence. And why not if this is life and death and you “love truth and hate lies” as you imply? If God strongly to the point of sending people to Hell FOR ALL ETERNITY (and STILL LOVE THEM, NOT HATES THEM, YOU ARBITRARY ARGUMENT ARMINIANS – AGAIN: YOUR OWN TEACHING IS THAT GOD LOVES THOSE HE SENDS TO HELL, SO WHY DO YOU SAY “AMEN CURTIS!” TO HATING THEM, AND NOT EVEN GIVE A LITTLE EVIDENCE FOR WHY YOU ARE RIGHT TO HATE EVEN ONE PERSON?) – IF GOD WILL SEND PEOPLE TO HELL FOR ALL ETERNITY, SHOULDN’T YOU HAVE ENOUGH CARE TO MAKE A GRAMMATICALLY CORRECT SENTENCE WHEN IT COMES TO SOMETHING YOU PUT IN CAPS AND SHOUT ABOUT, AS YOU DID HERE, WITH MULTIPLE QUESTION MARKS:
“Prophetic Worship??? What the!?! Prophetic Worship??? Some one help me out here, PLEASE!!! Prophetic Worship??? SMH Um, could SOMEONE PLEASE SCHOOL ME on Prophetic Worship and where we see it in the bible…or is it simply yet ANOTHER WAY to make merchandise out of Gods people as “they” SELL their music. Prophetic Worship…biblical???”
And here:
“SELF will NOT accept such truth wife…Freely ye have received, freely give is IGNORED all for the sake of S-E-L-F. After all, we are all sinners and Christ died for our sins and where there is no more remembrance of sin, we sinners can live anyway we so desire because Jesus loves us JUST THE WAY WE ARE!!! ALL LIES IN HYPOCRISIES!!!”
Would you like to go to an English teacher to confirm your sentences here are corrupt? Example, it’s “Lies in hypocrisy” not “hypocrisies”. Though that part is minor, your errors pile up and form rants over all. Instead of yelling crazily how about being calm so you can think more clearly which you obviously have a problem with, so great that it slipped right past you and your wife that you are misleading, that it is against the second greatest law to hate anyone, let alone that you treat God carelessly and are using him as a tool to promote your own gospel.
And Dawn, you used an evil tactic here:
“Selling teachings and prophecies is making merchandise of God’s people, period.”
Did I say “merchandise” anywhere? Did I say “sell crosses”? And where does the Bible say it would be wrong to sell crosses anyways? Christ taught not to turn the church into a store and to give what God gave to you for free, free yourself, and in context, he means the religious wisdom on what his word means and the gospel freely, not just whatever free gift he has given you. If we gave away whatever God gave to us for free, there would be nothing to sell since everything belongs to God and he lets us borrow it all, and you would be sinning yourself (and are in a way since you say it is wrong) by selling and buying anything, since, again, it all belongs to God (and is lent to us freely, OF GOD’S OWN FREE WILL). Or are you serious when you teach directly or indirectly that GOD IS UNDER THE WILL OF MAN? Even when you read that Christ said, and under extreme pain that would break any mere human: “But not my will, yours be done”?
I will not Dawn repeat the reasons, the clear reasons I gave for you saying that selling teachings and prophecies is wrong as you misleadingly say by oversimplying if with a sentence like that, another mislead, because you’re giving the impression that I said, “Sell the Bible and prophecies God gave you without letting anyone know what it was he said”, WHEN I SAID JUST THE OPPOSITE DAWN AND WHICH YOU JUST INSULTINGLY IGNORED BY STUBBORN REPEATING YOURSELF. How would you like it Dawn and Curtis if I said to you, “God is not love and there is no point in being loving like God” and you explain a large amount (long winded remember?) of good teachings to me from the Bible as to why God is love and why you should be loving, and I ignore it all and reply again with:
“No…! wroNG G0d is NOT love!!! and there’s no point in loving him AND JUST LOVING EVERYTHING THAT EXISTS!!!! which you said and believe in do you not?????????!!!!! Well but oh so wait you ChristianS so called!!! LIES IN HYPOCRIES IF THAT’S TRUE THEN I’M LOVING ME SOME SIN, AH HAH CHRITIANS CONTRADICT AGAIN! AMEN TO ATHEIST HUSBAND AND ALL MY ATHEIST FRIENDS! AND I LOVE DESPISING YOU CHRISTIANS!”
Wouldn’t that be an extremely disgusting response and something to truly despise to a great effort in love, love with patience? Yet you treated me the same way, showing contempt and “despising” for it, virtually saying that I am worthless, that any good I said is worthless, merely because, I’m a Calvinist, the same kind of reasoning racists use. Do you know what bigotry is or not care Mr. and Mrs. We Hate Christians Who Oppose Our Feelings In the Name of God?
“period.”
Dawn, “period” is not evidence, the force of your emotion is not evidence, your feelings are not evidence, period. The evidence for that claim?: Read the Bible, it implies that God’s word is to be used as evidence, not “I Dawn with confidence have said, “This is so, amen and period.” Or “If 5 billion Arminians say “Amen” then it is so.” That is false religion and a hatred for truth.
“In other words, do not charge people for any inspirational music, teachings, wisdom, prophecies that you receive from God. Simple.”
I told you before this response WHY IT WAS NOT SIMPLE DAWN. So all you are doing is hatefully repeating. You don’t argue a point by saying, “Simple ur wrong, period” is what you are basically doing. Again, how would you like it if I responded to your statements with the same type of response?
To your “you’re wrong, period. Simple”. With the exact same statement? As I say to non-Christians when they insult me for preaching, “Use your own insult against yourself, use your own argument against yourself to see if it is evidence of anything, if it makes you right, and if I can say the same to you would that make me right too?”
And you two haters of Christians who disagree with you don’t know that obvious point either? That mere claims don’t make you right? That mere insults don’t make you right?
“And one more thing – Curtis and I do not agree with the doctrine of John Calvin.”
Well that was really hard to figure out because I’m just a dumb Calvinist who doesn’t understand anything and just “slanders”. Curtis admitting that he is evil and you, by agreeing to “despise Calvinists” in the name of God was just not a big enough hint for this dumb Calvinist to know that you hate John Calvin and his teachings. Me am is just am dumb person. Again, do you know what bigotry is?
See More
2 hours ago · LikeUnlike ·
Daniel Knight
@Dawn Reinas “In researching that doctrine and studying the scriptures, that doctrine is found wanting.”
Like I said, is your mere claim/s evidence of anything?
If I say that same sentence back to you would that make me right? If I said, as …Arminians love to do as a defense of their honesty and wisdom: “I’ve read the Bible 100 times in a row straight Curtis and Dawn”, and or “I’ve studied the Bible and researched it thoroughly” would that make me right? Would it make the atheists right who also use such arguments to justify their hatred of the Bible? But yet you argue no differently than an atheist.
I’ll say it again: The Bible says not to argue over disputable matters but to take joy in doing what everyone knows to be right in God’s Spirit. So how about listening to your Arminian brother Lord at least, and ceasing arguing and bickering, and preaching “the gospel”? How about that gospel of eternal life, the eternal life that both Christ and John said is in those who love their brothers and enemies? Didn’t I put a link, and don’t I always, on my profile as to how to get that eternal life? So what is your excuse?
See More
2 hours ago · LikeUnlike ·
Daniel Knight
@Curtis Reinas “It’s called slander wife…something The Lord DESPISES ALSO.”
Then why don’t you stop slandering me Curtis by accusing me of slander WITHOUT EVIDENCE? Did you too MAGICALLY forget that the Bible requires that YOU HAVE EVIDEN…CE FOR AN ACCUSATION AGAINST A BROTHER, and not only that: TO CORRECT IN PRIVATE?
Isn’t that amazing Mr. and Misses We Despite Calvinists, We Hate Them in God’s Name and Love His Hatred of Calvinists, that you can just do whatever you want when it comes to attacking a Calvinist, but when it’s an Arminian: give them a free ticket and encourage their HATE.
“What Daniel has written is typical for John Calvin followers.”
And what you say is typical of Arminians. What about that Curtis? Does making such a statement help anyone? What was the point? NONE, but just to say, “The group of people do this evil thing always”. Again: do you know what bigotry is? There are online dictionaries if you didn’t know.
“The very SAME Satanic spirit that over took John Calvin ALSO overtakes his followers.”
Accusations without evidence are what is Satanic, and as I said, as Jesus taught.
“Since “they” can’t get us to conform to their damnable heresies and join their schism,”
Another sign of a person who is lying is when they pile on accusations like you are doing, without evidence. Once again Curtis The Despiser of Calvinists in God’s Name: If I make accusations without evidence and with the force of my emotions too, does that make me right? Then you must be wrong.
“they do their BEST to categorize us into a schism (Armenian)”
Now you’re ranting. What is necessary about you saying that part and with BEST capitalized? Did that make any logical sense to capitalize BEST? As I said: you’re not logical to the point where even your sentence structure is corrupt.
“which adamantly opposes Calvinism.”
DOES using A “big word” as some would call it (many these days actually), does using a fancy descriptive word make you “righter” or more right Curtis? Dawn? Well then can I try that tactic, typical of non Christians and false Christians? Can I say, “God absolutely adamantly no way never in no way extremely will not, most genuinely, truly honestly, truly truly truly truly etc., in no way imaginable, will he approve of SELLING HIS LOVE AS IF IT WERE MERCHANDISE, HIS RELIGIOUS WORKS, HIS INSPIRATION, IN EXCHANGE FOR MONEY, OR MAN’S WORKS AND SO CALLED “GOOD DEEDS”.
Would that make that statement right because I piled on adjectives or capitalized DOES or A?See More
about an hour ago · LikeUnlike ·
Daniel Knight
@Curtis Reinas “It’s Satan’s OLDEST trick.”
What did I, Daniel, say which you call Satan’s OLDEST trick Mr. Arbitrary Capitalization of Words Who Uses the OLD trick of broadsiding?
You do know what broadsiding is don’t you?: It’s when you ma…ke an accusation and don’t SPECIFY WHAT IS WRONG WITH WHAT YOU CLAIM IS WRONG. And as I said, I can do the same to you and simply say what you are saying back, which is to accuse WITHOUT EVIDENCE, which is one of Satan’s oldest tricks, for example, Satan accusing Job of being evil without evidence. You have read Job haven’t you? Or was Job too long-winded for you? I’m sure you’ve memorized the accusations of Job’s friends though… they sure weren’t long winded were they, no: they were, “just talking”.
“Look at Daniels comment how he falsely accuses me.”
Yes: if you look that will make Curtis right. Everyone: just look at what Dawn and Curtis say. ? Do you teach your children to argue like this or did you pick up this type of arguing and bickering from kids? “Just look at what you said, ur evil and you’re wrong, it’s all Satanic, period and simple. God said so. Amen!”
That’s mature? That’s “Christian”? NO.
“Look at his anti-Christ rants,”
Anti-Christain because you said so, and whatever you append, “I’m a true Christian and love God and hate what he hates and love what he loves. So, you’re right about whatever you say” too, means your right. What a trick! Hey everyone, “I’m Daniel: I’m honest and don’t lie…” Well then I must be honest and must not lie right, because I said so. What a trick you want me and the world to believe, but of course it wouldn’t apply to a Calvinist, because, well, they’re Calvinists! And and, AND: Calvinists use old tricks and are bad and Satanic and schismatics and devise and sinners and liars and hate truth! Just look! See? Do you see? If you DON’Tt see UR blind!!!!”
Sorry Curtis. you’re not dragging me down to Satan’s level, I won’t argue without evidence like you and demand that people just have faith in my mere claims and feelings like non-Christians are in the habit of doing.
“slander and vain attempt to condemn me by trying to make me “‘lend my mind'”
Wow you can use eloquent phrases, well then you must be the winner, the right one, the good Christian. Did you know, and I mean no insult by this, that a trait of the mental disorder “narcissism” is to believe and act as if using eloquent phrases and “high” words is what matters more than saying what is true and that using such language makes you automatically wise in whatever subject it is you are talking about and the automatic winner of any argument against someone who does not use such speech? Did you know that making claims without evidence or a concern for evidence (but not necessarily always going so) is also a sign of narcissism? It’s also a sign of psychopathy, a person with no concern for morality, who feels no guilt when they do wrong, which is similar to the way a narcissist is, the difference being that narcissists show loyalty to others they consider special, for however long they consider it. Narcissists will also use arbitrary arguments to fend people off, meaning, any argument, with such fervor, they often don’t see when they are contradicting themselves by such arguments, and when they do, hope you won’t notice, and if you do notice, will come up with another argument till they can no longer tolerate your disagreement and lack of thankfulness for whatever it is they say to you.See More
47 minutes ago · LikeUnlike ·
Daniel Knight
@Curtis Reinas
Yous said, “to the most vile of slanderous lies, ‘that I’m not saved’.”
What a surprise: you use the same language as atheists stalkers who harass me to no end. But God says to rejoice when the world hates and persecutes you, …RIGHT ARMINIAN MAJORITY? You didn’t forget, Curtis and Dawn, all you Arminians, that most if not all CATHOLICS are also Arminians whether they say it or not, didn’t you? You did know that ALL CATHOLICS AGREE THAT BY EITHER OBEDIENCE TO GOD’S LAW OR GOOD DEEDS (and it can’t be or since good deeds require obedience to the law, just so you who are confused know) – you did know that about Catholics right? And the point is: Catholics are not just the majority religious group, but are so widespread and numerous, it is no stretch to count them as part of “the world” when the Bible speaks of non-Christians. There is no way around that. On top of that, even non-Christians, even pagans agree that you can earn your way to Heaven if it exists. There are twisted versions of Calvinists so to speak though, pagan versions, who say that God would only let those into Heaven who haven’t committed big sins, twisted because they leave out that God HAS MERCY, Curtis, on sinners, and saves them through is son, and doesn’t just IGNORE those who are not good and just happen to do good works THROUGH THOSE WHO ALREADY HAVE GOODNESS IN THEM CURTIS, AS YOU CONVENIENTLY JUST HAPPENED TO MAGICALLY FORGET IS APART OF ARMINIAN DOCTRINE, despite you pretending that you’re only good when Christ does good through you. That’s NOT what you believe is it Curtis? That’s not what you Arminians believe. Don’t you believe THAT GOD SAVES THOSE WHO ALREADY HAVE GOODNESS IN THEM? Don’t you believe that Curtis, despite you trying to give a false impression on others that you are humble and that God just arbitrarily chose you one day, apart from predestining you? Don’t you believe that despite you trying to seem as if you are the “true Calvinist”, the REAL humble one who needed Christ’s help?
Well you’re not the real Calvnist Curtis; you believe that you already had goodness in you and that that is why you “chose” God’s supposed way of salvation and humility, and that is a heresy, it is a heresy beacuse from the same book of Psalms you quote below, it says TWICE, IN MORE THAN ONE WAY, MORE THAN TWICE that MAN IS NOT GOOD, with the implication from that man only comes anything close to good when God saves them and has worked on them for a long time.
Christ even said that the disciples had no goodness apart from Him, meaning his working through them, as you yourself hypocritically appear to have implied (at least to me it appears that way) was true for you with your vague “works” comment. Or are you NOT an Amrinian Curtis, and you believe that you were 100% evil, and that Christ needed to change your heart and mind to ask God for forgiveness and trust that his son FREELY OF HIS OWN WILL SUFFER AND DIE FOR ALL YOUR SINS, EVERY SINGLE ONE PAST PRESENT AND FUTURE SECURING FOR YOU ETERNAL PEACE, NOT TEMPORARY – to do that “WORK” Curtis? Or “giving money to religious causes” and “helping people across the street”? Which one Curtis? It can’t be both, since the Bible does not teach it is God’s work plus mans. So what “work” were you talking about Christ doing through you, Curtis?See More
27 minutes ago · LikeUnlike ·
Daniel Knight
@Curtis Reinas
And, Curtis: Did I merely say as you falsely implied, and so slandered me by doing – did I say: “You’re not saved.” with a period at the end? Did I do as Dawn did, by saying, “Simple” or “period”? at the end? Why did you end …it with a period then Curtis?
YOU slandered me with that punctuation mark called a period, and by ignoring whatever specific points I made and make and by broadsiding me with your colorful (but cliche) speech. Deception (and using colorful language as a distraction and to make it appear as if you are wise in morality and doing what is right) is Satan’s OLDEST trick Curtis:
“Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of the field which Jehovah God had made. And he said to the woman, “[Is it] so that God has said, ‘You shall not eat of every tree of the garden? … You shall not surely die: for God knows that in the day you eat of it, then your eyes shall be opened, and you shall be as God, knowing good and evil.”
Very cunning of the serpent that Satan took advantage of wasn’t it Arminians: to say “SURELY” and mix it up with eloquent colorful speech, and no doubt with a tone of regal confidence. You can pick that up can’t you, being that you’re good at doing it yourselves, when you make a good effort at times. Can’t you just smell the confidence (arrogance more specifically), with Satan using a rhetorical question: ” “[Is it] so that God has said, ‘You shall not eat of every tree of the garden?” (one of his OLDEST tricks, so you should know better than to use them, because it’s been there on display in God’s word copied all over the world for you to see and not forget), rhetoric mixed with, “surely” and “for” … “for GOD KNOWS” and “your eyes shall be opened if you just look, if you just look at the evil I accuse Daniel and John Calvin of doing and all Calvinists, and I would know Eve, because I listened to God and you didn’t study carefully enough like me (now submit to me Eve and all mankind, because my will is above God’s).”
“This only PROVES ONE thing…I AM saved!”
Well of course: Because you said Calvinists try their “BEST” to show a person is not saved and that’s Satan’s OLDEST trick, then it’s “PROOF” Curtis (just you?) is saved”!”
Well Curtis and Dawn and many of you Arminians sure haven’t tried their best or at least have not fervently tried, or at least tried with strong effort to prove Calvinists are not saved, no… you haven’t at all, so, using your logic, uh, I must NOT be saved? Because… you Arminians… don’t try, your “BEST”??? HUH? And you think you’re a mentally sound Curtis? That reminds me, another thing non-Christians often (not always) fail to do to check to see if they are speaking the truth is to reverse their logic. It’s a little different then simply testing an argument against yourself, the difference is that you test to see if your claim is true in reverse, if saying, “That if it is best to do this, then is it worse to do this”.See More
25 minutes ago · LikeUnlike ·
Daniel Knight
@Curtis Reinas “Not by my own WORKS by by Christ Who WORKS IN and THROUGH me!”
No, that is not God’s word you who copy the serpent, God said, through his servant Paul, Paul who often explained why salvation is not by works:
“For God has not …given us the spirit of fear, but of power and of LOVE and of a SOUND MIND. THEREFORE you should not be ashamed of the TESTIMONY of our Lord [WHICH CURTIS AND DAWN NOT SURPRISING TO ME DO NOT QUOTE IN THE ARGUMENTS AGAINST SALVATION BY GRACE], nor of me His PRISONER. But be partaker of the afflictions of the GOSPEL [which is not of works done through man Curtis] according to the power of God, who HAS SAVED [as in saved from Hell and a life of nonstop living to fulfill our own will above God’s when we feel like it, and not “TEMPORARY salvation”] saved [past tense saved Curtis, not “saving” as Arminians imply, and which Catholic teach] us and called us with a holy calling, not according to our works, BUT ACCORDING TO HIS OWN PURPOSE AND GRACE [grace means “unearned love”] which was given us in Christ Jesus BEFORE the eternal times not [God decided to save you temporarily after Christ did “works” through you].
And Paul made it even clearer who is saved and why:
“‘I will have mercy on whom I have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion.’ It does not, therefore, depend on man’s desire or effort, BUT ON GOD’S MERCY [not “plus Christ’s work through Curtis” not “plus Christ’s good deeds through man”]. For the Scripture says to Pharaoh: ‘I raised you up for this very purpose: THAT I COULD DISPLAY MY POWER IN YOU AND THAT MY NAME COULD BE PROCLAIMED IN ALL THE EARTH.’ Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden
NOT: Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, and he hardens whom he wants to harden if man wills to accept Christ doing good deeds through him man shall be saved, and especially if he says “surely” or “simply” or “period” or “amen” or “this is proof I’m saved by God!” which is proof in and of itself to say and proclaim.”
It doesn’t say that or imply it anywhere Curtis, instead you have the entire Old Testament and many parables and plain speech verses showing that no attempt BY MAN, PERIOD, CURTIS AND DAWN, PERIOD, NO ATTEMPT BY MAN PERIOD to earn God’s love, forgiveness and salvation is “good” in God’s eyes, and that Christ is THE SAVIOR AND THAT GOD WILL NOT SHARE HIS GLORY WITH ANOTHER, not “Salvation by Christ PLUS through Christ’s deeds through man, man who is equally King with God over his destiny or who is above God, and who can even change the destiny of God by his will.”
NOTHING, like that is in Scripture and won’t be, no matter how much you will it, feel it, wish for it, or claim it, and with no amount of insults will that change.See More
24 minutes ago · LikeUnlike ·
Daniel Knight
@Curtis Reinas
GOD: “One of you will say to me: ‘Then why does God still blame us? For who resists his will? But who are you, O man, to talk back [WITH ANGER] towards God? “Shall what is formed say to him who formed it, ‘Why did you make me… like this?’ [QUESTIONING THE WILL AND WISDOM OF THE ONE AND ONLY GOD WHO MADE IT?] Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same lump of clay some pottery for noble purposes and some for common use?”
Yes or no Curtis? Yes or no Dawn? Does that get an Amen? When God asks a rhetorical question, can you give him an “Amen!” Which of you will bless God now first? Or would you like to join each other in Hell?
So you taught a false gospel and put words in God’s mouth, mixing it with the truth (and do I really need to point out that that is “deceiving”?). Again Paul teaches, and much more clearly, that it is by God’s will, not as you implied (or tried to imply) with your “Christ doing good works (of the Law of Moses Curtis, which you conveniently were silent on and so making the word “works” vague who are ignorant and don’t know better as to the multiple meanings of works), GOOD DEEDS YOU MEANT, not merely as you left open to what you possibly meant in your vagueness: Christ’s work of obedience to God APART from man, suffering, blood shed and having been hung on a cross and executed there for sins. NOT: Christ getting Curtis to help an old lady across a street, and love his wife, and donate some money to church. NO: GOD’S LOVE, GOD’S RELIGIOUS WORKS, NOT GOD’S OR CHRIST’S, ARE FOR SALE, THEY ARE NOT MERCHANDISE, AS YOU SAID. You “care” so much for righteousness you forget the greatest righteousness which you make a cheap thing, despite your implying that mans deeds, which you CONVENIENTLY MERELY CLAIM come from Christ. Yes Curtis, yes Arminians, the Bible does say that Christ works through THOSE HE HAS SAVED, not “CHRIST IS SAVING THOSE HE SAVED BY DOING GOOD WORKS THROUGH THEM FROM HELPING PEOPLE ACROSS THE STREET TO YOUR PRECIOUS WORK AT YOUR JOB TO RAISING YOUR CHILDREN”, a statement which is obvious nonsense. YOU ARE SAVED BY CHRIST’S WORK FROM HIS OBEDIENCE TO THE LAW OF MOSES TO HIS DEATH ON THE CROSS, NOT “PLUS CHRIST’S WORK THROUGH CURTIS”, NOT “PLUS CHRIST’S WORK THROUGH DAWN … And it’s going to be an ongoing work till Curtis and Dawn decide they’ve become bored of God’s works and decide one day they’d rather be in Hell, because don’t you know, that’s what true Christians want as an option, is the option to go to Hell, that’s “love” for God, you Calvinists whom we despise in God’s name, oh you slanderous Satanic CALVINISTS!”
So Curtis and Dawn, because man’s will is “KING” as you put mentally in caps, since it is “SOVEREIGN” against God’s will, well then man’s “good deeds” just must be accepted by God, and because man (or at least those who agree with narcissists) – man is just so good, and because, because you said so! Because you have willed it with the force of your will and adamantly simply surely with a period and a man backed it up with fervor and claims of being true Christians (not like those damned legalistic Pharisees who by their trying to obey the Law of Moses or as the lazier ones thought: just be reading God’s word and mouthing it), that you are good. You said it, you will ed it, therefore it must be so, surely simply period with and Amen and calling Calvinists Satanic. Have I missed something? No wait: let me guess: I took you out of context because I didn’t quote you word for word, and not quoting word for word is Satanic, it’s a sin! Simple! PERIOD! Amen! SURELY! IT’S WHAT GOD SAID DID HE NOT EVE? TRUST ME EVE!
Like the serpent wants to you believe: God really didn’t mean what he said when he implied that his will takes supremacy Eve, he really didn’t mean, tsk tsk: You’re not good enough, you are good enough Eve, your will is equal and even above God’s will: no go eat that fruit, go do this good deed of reaching for that fruit and eating it, and you’ll have eternal life, and your will so supreme Eve (I really did not mean to delay slipping this in after your good work for eternal life Eve), your will is SO supreme, surely truly simply period: That if you will to get rid of your eternal life, to choose with that special great high will of yours that must not be violated by God (or he’d be a cosmic rapist!)… if you CHOOSE to Eve… watch for it, pay attention to what I say Eve: YOU CAN MAKE YOUR ETERNAL LIFE TEMPORARY! That’s right: You can will it away! For as I said: You shall be like God and have the power to do anything with the knowledge in that fruit, over LIFE AND DEATH! That was the secret Eve! God didn’t want you to know that eternal life is in your hands and that God was just a lower partner, that you could get rid of him whenever you wanted!See More
23 minutes ago · LikeUnlike ·
Daniel Knight
@Curtis Reinas
You said, Curtis,
“Praise The Lord ALMIGHTY for exposing the deceitful workers of iniquity and for CONFIRMING His Holy Word!
…
Psalm 139:17-24
How precious also are thy thoughts unto me, O God! how great is the sum of them! If I should count them, they are more in number than the sand: when I awake, I am still with thee. Surely thou wilt slay the wicked, O God: depart from me therefore, ye bloody men. For they speak against thee wickedly, and thine enemies take thy name in vain. Do not I hate them, O LORD, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.
Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts: And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting.
ONLY for the discerning AND The Faithful!”
And just happened to forget Curtis, you just happened to forget that God also said:
and you also count as a man Curtis and so you are also not to trust in yourself,
“Trust in Jehovah with all your heart, and lean not to your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge Him, and He shall direct your paths. Do not be wise in your own eyes; fear Jehovah and depart from evil.” – Proverbs 3:5-7;
,
“He who trusts in his own heart is a fool, but he who walks in wisdom shall be delivered.” – Proverbs 28:26;
“Fear of man will prove to be a snare, but whoever trusts in the LORD is kept safe.” – Proverbs 29:25;
“This is what Jehovah says: ‘Cursed is the one who trusts in man, who depends on flesh for his strength and whose heart turns away from Jehovah.” – Jeremiah 17:5.
And the God you call “long-winded” also said:
“When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory… And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left. Then shall the King say to them on his right hand, “Come, you blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you FROM THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD: For I was an hungry, and you gave me meat: I was thirsty, and you gave me drink: I was a stranger, and you took me in: Naked, and you clothed me: I was sick, and you visited me: I was in prison, and you came to me. Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, “Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty, and give you drink? When saw we saw a stranger, and took you in, or naked, and clothed thee? Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came to you? And the King shall answer and say to them, “Verily I say to you: So far as you have done it to one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it to me. Then shall he say also to them on the left hand, “Depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: For I was hungry, and you gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and you gave me no drink: I WAS A STRANGER, and you did not take me in: naked, and you clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and you visited me not. Then shall they also answer him, saying, “Lord, when did we see you hungry, thirsty, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister to thee? [FOR DID YOU NOT DO GOOD WORKS THROUGH US? DID WE NOT REFRAIN FROM SELLING RELIGIOUS WORKS THAT YOU INSPIRED US WITH? DID WE NOT HATE OUR ENEMIES AND ANGRILY WITH SHOUTING AND CAPITAL LETTERS DRIVE THE MONEY CHANGERS OUT OF YOUR TEMPLE?! DID WE NOT SHOOT AT THE ANTI-CHRIST’S HEAD AND GIVE HIM A MORTAL WOUND? DID NOT SATAN SHOW HIS HATRED FOR US BY HEALING THAT EVIL MAN AND EXECUTING US FOR ATTACKING US, AND WE BECOMING MARTYR’S IN YOUR NAME? AMEN? Are we not shouting and pleading now for a second chance from you oh God who is merciful and loving and does the will of man over your own when we repent? Surely you are not a tyrant or cosmic rapist who forces man to go where he does not want to go! Oh you, who calls yourself ‘God’L SURELY God has not become a cosmic rapist as the Arminian Hank Hanegraaff has warned is no God, but would be of Satan! Like those workers of iniquity who lie in Satan’s name to persecute us to Hell, those 100% evil Calvinists who do no good worth mentioning, but only ignoring completely even when they are thirsty, hungry, naked, and strange and weird, and BORING! They have no Spirit in them, no fervor! No passion, they are DEAD! You believe us right God? Because if you don’t, well you know what that makes you right? And you DON’T want to be like that, don’t you see? Just look again and compare our works to the Calvinists, you’ll see God we are right, so, so now lift us into the clouds with you okay? God? Are you listening to our will and our heart? Why do you look so angry God? Why so negative towards us in appearance?] Then shall he answer them, saying, [AS YOU CURTIS AND DAWN AND ALL ARMINIANS SOMETIMES SAY TO JUSTIFY YOUR HATE AND IGNORE MY COMMANDS: I HATE MY ENEMIES! But now you want my mercy and accuse me of evil if I will not give it with your rhetoric and “surelys”!? YOU HYPOCRITES!] Verily I say to you, Inasmuch as you did it not to one of the least of these [Calvinists and others whom you’ve called “enemies of God” using rhetoric and my own holy word which you had no right to speak since you did not truly care about me, WHO WERE YOUR ENEMIES TO WHOM YOU HATED], you helped not to me [either]. [BUT GOD WAIT! IT’S ME CURTIS, WHO WAS KIND TO DAWN AND HIS BRETHREN AT CHURCH, WAIT! LISTEN! I THOUGHT YOU SAID “HATE YOUR ENEMIES!”] And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal [that eternal REST APART FROM WORKS, THAT ETERNAL SABBATH ON WHICH EVEN GOD RESTED AS AN EXAMPLE FOR US, AND NOT because of man’s will or their works or supposed works in them from Christ, but Christ’s and suffering unto death and resurrection and the work of him “DRAWING” them to God, the Shepherd who does NOT LOSE HIS SHEEP].
Yes Curtis: keep ignoring what the Bible says about salvation, works and Hell, forget what Christ said is the second greatest commandment and take a passage out of context to justify doing so, so that Curtis and Dawn are free to have their way by hating whom they will. For, your will Curtis and Dawn be done, your heart’s desire, not Calvinists, and definitely not God’s, period.
Now after having said all that, and after more minutes had gone by, I decided to make one last comment on that thread, and let Curtis and others know that the Bible commands me not to engage in arguments of ignorance and that to keep listening to them (from the same person at least) will corrupt you. And when I tried to post it, guess what happened. Look for yourself, as Curtis might say:

Maybe Curtis-Who-Despises-Calvinists will magically forget why he removed me from his friends list too. So much for “let us reason”, long-suffering and not arguing, Arminians.