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St. Murphy the Sexual Abuser of Deaf Children

3/24/2010

from google.com:

NEW YORK — Milwaukee’s Roman Catholic archbishop warned a top Vatican office led by future Pope Benedict XVI about a priest who may have molested as many as 200 deaf boys, according to documents obtained by The New York Times, but the priest never was defrocked.

The documents were provided by two lawyers who have filed lawsuits alleging the Archdiocese of Milwaukee didn’t take sufficient action against the Rev. Lawrence Murphy. The priest, who died in 1998, worked at the former St. John’s School for the Deaf in St. Francis from 1950 to 1975.

In 1996, then-Milwaukee Archbishop Rembert G. Weakland sent letters about Murphy to the Vatican office called the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, which was led from 1981 to 2005 by Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, the future pope. Weakland received no response from Ratzinger, the Times reported.

Eight months later, the second in command at the doctrinal office, Cardinal Tarciscio Bertone — now the Vatican’s secretary of state — told the Wisconsin bishops to begin secret disciplinary proceedings, according to the documents. But Bertone halted that process after Murphy wrote to Ratzinger saying he already had repented, was ailing and that the case’s statute of limitations had run out, the Times reported.

The documents contain no response from Cardinal Ratzinger. – More here.

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  1. thought
    March 25, 2010 at 8:07 PM

    Now it could just be me, but it seems like the Catholic church leaders may actually be paying attention to what’s written in the Bible.

    Matthew 21-35

    [verse text deleted by night]

    1 John 1:9 [verse text deleted by night]

    Psalm 130:4 [verse text deleted by night]

    Matthew 26:28 [verse text deleted by night]

    If you still believe, after all of this biblical evidence from both the old and the new testaments, that the man from several years ago who sinned should be fired from his job or made to leave his vocation, I would then say that by that belief you are accepting being fired from your job the next time you sinned. That includes any sin, because as you will recall, if you break with any of God's commandments you suffer the same fate as one who broke another commandment. Now you could say that he isn't just losing his job and that he's actually going to hell. But then, you'd be admitting that we're all going to hell. And Jesus didn't say that, did he? In fact, I'm pretty sure that he said in John 5:24

    "I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes in him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life".

    Look up some information on sex slavery going on all over the world, right now. If you're really concerned about people who are suffering from sexual abuse, it's a venue with a great deal more pain and suffering going on right underneath your nose. Bear in mind however that all written in the Bible as far as Jesus' commandments to us go still apply.

    By the way: in your description you say that you led several people to Christ. You might want to consider rephrasing that, as it's blasphemous. Christ leads people to Christ. We are instruments of his peace, at best.

    John 3:21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen that what he has done has been done through God.

    P.S. What's with all the censoring and angry language?

    • March 25, 2010 at 10:28 PM

      “Now it could just be me,”

      Hey psychopath narcissist: Do I care about your cutsie little smug narcissits phrases? Do they make you right stupid? No stupid. So shut your smug phrases up.

      “but it seems like the Catholic church leaders may actually be paying attention to what’s written in the Bible.”

      Now it could be me, but it seems like the Catholic church leaders might as usual be ignoring the Bible being that they ignored the grievous sins of a priest who molested about 200 deaf boys, and that if they had been paying attention to the Bible for once, that continious molestations, rapes, blasphemy and abortions in their church might actually become non-existant to rare. Blind moron. And blind moron paying attention to the Bible isn’t making equal the tradition of man with God’s word. Stupid hypocrite.

      “Matthew 21-35, 1 John 1:9, Psalm 130:4, Matthew 26:28

      If you still believe, after all of this biblical evidence from both the old and the new testaments, that the man from several years ago who sinned should be fired from his job or made to leave his vocation, I would then say that by that belief you are accepting being fired from your job the next time you sinned.”

      Smug demon from Hell: MOLESTING 200 DEAF CHILDREN UNDER THE AUTHORITY OF A PRIEST IS NOT EQUAL TO A CHILD WHO DUE TO A SECOND OF CARELESSNESS ACCIDENTALLY SCRATCHES SOMEONE. DO YOU SEE HOW BLIND YOU ARE? HOW EVIL? DO YOU THINK I’VE NEVER HEARD THE CATHOLIC PASS TO CONTINUALLY SIN: “Weeeell everyone sins yah know, hee heee, so you gotta forgive”. DEMON: THAT MAN IS REQUIRED TO FORGIVE MAN DOES NOT MEAN THAT A CHURCH MUST ACCEPT THE AUTHORITY OF ANYONE. Why don’t you have that common sense? SINNING IS NOT AN EXCUSE TO GO ON SINNING. WHAT A SEVERELY EVIL DEVIL YOU ARE!

      “That includes any sin,”

      “Wrong Bible-ignorant man-worshiper, idolator:

      Here is a trustworthy saying: If anyone sets his heart on being an overseer, he desires a noble task. Now the overseer must be ABOVE REPROACH, THE HUSBAND OF ONE WIFE, temperate, SELF-CONTROLLED, RESPECTABLE, HOSPITABLE, able to teach, not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money. – 1 Timothy 3:1-3

      Might that include: NOT A HOMOSEXUAL ABUSER OF CHILDREN? “BIG DUH” DEMON?

      “if anyone causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him to have a large millstone hung around his neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.” – Matthew 18:6

      “If your brother sins against you, go and show him his fault, just between the two of you. If he listens to you, you have won your brother over. 16But if he will not listen, take one or two others along, so that ‘every matter may be established by the testimony of two or three witnesses.’ If he refuses to listen to them, tell it to the church; and if he refuses to listen even to the church, treat him as you would a pagan or a tax collector. – Matthew 18:15-17

      NOT:

      “if a smug narcissist hypocrite tells you, Even a leader of billions of people or a priest of hundreds or more commits severe sins against those he is leading, so long as he says, “Oh I’ve repented,” to be simeplton by just believing him and trusting that he’ll never do anything severely evil again and not show any concern for those he’s harmed, and if anyone doesn’t do that it would be better for them to have a LARGE millstone hung around their neck and to be drowned in the depths of the sea.” – Matthew 18:6

      Doesn’t say that demon. Nor did Jesus say,

      “If your brother sins against you, just forgive him. If he sins against you again, just forgive him again. If he sins against you again, just forgive him.” – Matthew 18:15-17

      “because as you will recall, if you break with any of God's commandments you suffer the same fate as one who broke another commandment.”

      No forgetful, narcissist:

      “Speak to the Israelites and say to them: ‘select some towns to be your cities of refuge, to which a person who has killed someone accidentally may flee. They will be places of refuge from the avenger, so that a person accused of murder may not die before he stands trial before the assembly… [BUT:] if a man strikes someone with an iron object so that he dies, he is a murderer; the murderer shall be put to death, or if anyone has a stone in his hand that could kill, and he strikes someone so that he dies, he is a murderer; the murderer shall be put to death. Or if anyone has a wooden object in his hand that could kill, and he hits someone so that he dies, he is a murderer; the murderer shall be put to death. The avenger of blood shall put the murderer to death; when he meets him, he shall put him to death. If anyone with malice aforethought shoves another or throws something at him intentionally so that he dies or if in hostility he hits him with his fist so that he dies, that person shall be put to death; he is a murderer. The avenger of blood shall put the murderer to death when he meets him. – Numbers 35:10-12

      Further: you were quoting Old Testament laws when those laws above were still in effect, therefore you are making the Bible contradict itself by taking it out of context. You are confusing emotion with justice: The Bible does not say that forgiveness is the equivalent of justice, as you twisted mine thinks, due to you being careless about the meanings of the words you read and use, which is because you worship man who are all liars, rather than God, who is The Truth.

      “Now you could say that he isn't just losing his job and that he's actually going to hell. But then, you'd be admitting that we're all going to hell. And Jesus didn't say that, did he? In fact, I'm pretty sure that he said in John 5:24

      "I tell you the truth, whoever hears my word and believes in him who sent me has eternal life and will not be condemned; he has crossed over from death to life".

      Look up some information on sex slavery going on all over the world, right now.”

      Moron: try not commanding me as if you were God and not being a hypocrite by reading the post you ranted on, and turning your neck a little and notcing the links on the side of my journal you vain babbling idiot.

      Massively stupid moron did you notice I already do that from the very post you are replying on? Massive time-waster, turn your neck a little and open your eyes and take a look at the side of my journal: see the links there idiot? WHAT A MORON FROM HELL YOU ARE.
      “If you're really concerned about people who are suffering from sexual abuse, it's”

      If you really were concerned with suffering and abuse you wouldn’t have blasphemed here and you would bother to read carefully and not assume and not call all sin equal and that everyone should be allowed to get away with whatever they want by merely claiming to have repented, nor would you would not judge people or right from wrong based on your mere feelings as you clearly have been doing all your life based on the nasty words you said to me and everyone who has been suffernig due to the abuse of the Catholic Church. If you really were concerned with the suffering and abuse of the children and nuns taken sexually advantage of by your Church, you would stop supporting it with your money and stop showing approval of it’s sin by disassociating yourself with them, not saying, “We’re unified.”

      “a venue with a great deal more pain and suffering going on right underneath your nose.:

      Eloquent speech doesn’t justify you smug narcissist demon, nor do “high” words.

      “Bear in mind”

      Do you know what a “conninving fag” is? Do you know how not to talk like one? Do you know what a narcissist is? Do you know how not to talk like one? Do you know the difference between “truth”, “words” and “emotions”? They aren’t the same things moron.
      “however that all written in the Bible as far as Jesus' commandments to us go still apply.”

      Stop ranting and make sense moron.

      “By the way: in your description you say that you led several people to Christ. You might want to consider rephrasing that, as it's blasphemous. Christ leads people to Christ.”

      MORON: YOU ARE THE BLASPHEMER AS I HAVE SHOWN AND YOU ARE COMMITTING LOGOMACHY, WHICH IS A SIN: OBVIOUSLY, TO THOSE WHO ARE NOT CONTENTIOUS IGNORANCE-LOVING MORONS LIKE YOURSELF I AM SPEAKING SUCCINCTLY YOU IDIOT. NO ONE SAYS EVERYTHING AND INCLUDES EVERY SINGLE LITTLE DETAIL, OTHER WISE NOTHING WOULD GET DONE YOU IDIOT. PERHAPS YOU MIGHT RECALL YOU IGNORANT PRETENTIOUS DEMON:

      “You may say to yourself, ‘My power and the strength of my hands have produced this wealth for me.’ BUT REMEMBER that Yaweh your God, for it is he who gives you the ability to produce wealth, and so confirms his covenant, which he swore to your forefathers, as it is today.” – Deuteronomy 8:17-18

      Not, “Don’t say you did anything yourself, just say, “God did it.”

      You must really hate science too, you contentious demon.

      “We are instruments of his peace, at best.”

      Because you said so demon.

      It says, demon:

      “When you enter the land Yahweh your God is giving you and have taken possession of it and settled in it, and you say, ‘Let us set a king over us like all the nations around us,’ be sure to appoint over you the king Yahweh your God chooses. He must be from among your own brothers. Do not place a foreigner over you, one who is not a brother Israelite.

      It says demon:

      “It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that does not occur even among pagans: A man has his father’s wife. And you are proud! Shouldn’t you rather have been filled with grief and have put out of your fellowship the man who did this? … If anyone has caused grief, he has not so much grieved me as he has grieved all of you, to some extent—not to put it too severely. 6The punishment inflicted on him by the majority is sufficient for him. 7Now instead, you ought to forgive and comfort him, so that he will not be overwhelmed by excessive sorrow. 8I urge you, therefore, to reaffirm your love for him.” – 1 Corinthians 5:1-6 – 2 Corinthians 2:5-8

      It does not say demon:

      “It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that does not occur even among pagans: A man has his father’s wife. But sin is sin, everyone sins, so just forgive.” – 1 Corinthians 5:1-6 – 2 Corinthians 2:5-8

      It says, demon:

      Now Korah, the son of Izhar, the son of Kohath, the son of Levi, took both Dathan and Abiram, the sons of Eliab, and On, the son of Peleth, sons of Reuben; even they rose up before Moses with some of the sons of Israel, two hundred and fifty rulers of the assembly, elect men in the congregation, men who were well-known. And they gathered themselves against Moses and against Aaron, and said to them, You take too much upon you, since all the congregation are holy, every one of them, and Jehovah is among them. Why then do you lift yourselves up above the congregation of Jehovah? … And Moses was very angry, and said to Jehovah, Do not respect their offering. I have not taken one ass from them, neither have I hurt one of them. And Moses said to Korah, Stand before Jehovah, you and all your company, you and they, and Aaron, tomorrow. … And Korah gathered all the congregation against them, to the door of the tabernacle of the congregation. And the glory of Jehovah appeared to all the congregation. And Jehovah spoke to Moses and to Aaron, saying, ‘Separate yourselves from among this congregation, so that I may devour them in a moment.’ And they fell upon their faces and said, O God, the God of the spirits of all flesh, shall one man sin and will You be angry with all the congregation? And Jehovah spoke to Moses saying, Speak to the congregation saying, Get away from the tent of Korah and Dathan and Abiram. … And Dathan and Abiram came out and stood in the door of their tents, and their wives, and their sons, and their infants. And Moses said, By this you shall know that Jehovah has sent me to do all these works, and that not from my own heart. If these men die the common death of all men, or if they are visited according to the examination of all men, Jehovah has not sent me. But if Jehovah makes a new thing, and the earth opens her mouth and swallows them up with all that they have, and they go down alive into the pit, then you shall understand that these men have provoked Jehovah. But if Jehovah makes a new thing, and the earth opens her mouth and swallows them up with all that they have, and they go down alive into the pit, then you shall understand that these men have provoked Jehovah. And it happened, as he had made an end of speaking all these words, the ground under them split apart. And the earth opened her mouth and swallowed them up, and their households, and all the men who were for Korah, and all their goods. They and all that they had went down alive into Sheol, and the earth closed upon them. And they perished from among the congregation. And all Israel around them fled at their cry. For they said, Lest the earth swallow us up. And there came out a fire from Jehovah and burned up the two hundred and fifty men who offered incense. – Numbers 16:1-3,15-35

      Jesus said, demon:

      “Who then is the faithful and wise manager, whom the master puts in charge of his servants to give them their food allowance at the proper time? It will be good for that servant whom the master finds doing so when he returns. I tell you the truth, he will PUT IN HIM CHARGE OF ALL HIS POSSESSIONS. But suppose the servant says to himself, ‘My master is taking a long time in coming,’ and he then begins to beat the menservants and maidservants and to eat and drink and get drunk. The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the unbelievers. That servant who knows his master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what his master wants will be beaten with MANY blows. But the one who does not know and does things deserving punishment will be beaten with FEW blows. From everyone who has been GIVEN MUCH, MUCH will be demanded; and from the one who has been GIVEN MUCH TO PROTECT: MUCH MORE will be asked.” Luk 12:42-48

      It says, demon:

      “Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God. – 1 Corinthians 6:9-11

      Not, “Do you not know that everyone is going to Heaven so forgive and ignore whatever anyone does and let them do whatever they want?”

      “Let the dead bury their own dead, but you go and proclaim the kingdom of God.” – Luke 9:60

      It says, demon:

      “I hear that when you come together as a church, there are divisions among you, and to some extent I believe it. No doubt there have to be differences among you to show which of you have God’s approval.” – 1 Corinthians 11:18-19

      It says, demon:

      Do not be unequally yoked together with unbelievers; for what fellowship does righteousness have with lawlessness? And what partnership does light have with darkness? And what agreement does Christ have with Belial? Or what part does a believer have with an unbeliever? And what agreement does a temple of God have with idols? For you are the temple of the living God, as God has said, I will dwell in them and walk among them; and I will be their God, and they shall be My people.’ Therefore come out from among them and be separated, says the Lord, and do not touch the unclean thing. – 2 Corinthians 6:14-17

      Jesus said, demon:

      “Do you suppose that I have come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no, but rather division. For from now on, there shall be five in one house divided, three against two, and two against three. The father shall be divided against the son, and the son against the father; the mother against the daughter, and the daughter against the mother; the mother-in-law against her daughter-in-law, and the daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law.” – Luke 12:51-53

      Not, “Just be unified with whoever wants to be unified with you, just be apart of the Catholic church whenever a Catholic asks to so they can feel good about themselves and boast about being the true church for having the most members. Be a smug, demonic, simplistic moron.”

      “P.S. What's with all the censoring”

      P.S.:

      What’s with all the claims not based on evidence? Demon much?

      P.S.

      What’s with all the censoring of verses that refute Catholic tradition? Biased much?

      P.S.

      What’s with all the censoring of the grievous sins and that Catholics have committed against the world let alone their own children?

      P.S.

      What’s with the hiding of all the priests who have molested children and raped nuns and who murdered their babies?

      P.S.

      Where does the Bible say to listen to what anyone has to say?

      P.S.

      Where does the Bible say that it’s a sin to censor anything?

      P.S.

      Where does the Bible say to be hypocrite who smugly jabs at others to do what he won’t?

      P.S.

      Why don’t people love and enjoy spam?

      P.S.

      Why did the Catholics moderating the Catholic anti-Protestant Taylor Marshall’s blog censor my responses to his challenges and attack on Calvin?

      P.S.

      Why doen’t the Catholic Church allow anyone to get on the pulpit and say what they want to say?

      P.S.

      Why don’t Catholic listen to whatever anyone wants to say to them?

      P.S.

      Who said everything was worth listening to?

      P.S.

      What’s the Catholic Church’s censoring of the gospel that leads to eternal life which I proudly put up in front of my journal, twice, not just once, for all to have easy access to be to saved?

      P.S.

      Why are you such a connving, smug, fault-finder who makes mere accusations and rather than pointing out the good I do: for example demon: That unlike 99.9% of Catholics: I actually preach the gospel, and do just the opposite of hiding it, and that unlike any of the billions of Catholics, worked on it for years so that it would be easily understood, even by evil morons like yourself? Why is you only pick on what you personally feeeeeel are the faults of someone who opposes you you smug arrogant conniving demonic hypocrite?

      P.S.:

      Why don’t you praise me for all that I’ve revealed which Catholics deliberately hide and by sinning? Do you see any Catholic journal’s like mine, exposing sin left and right and instead what is right to be done? Do you see any Catholic blogs with meticulous careful thorough replies to hateful demonic rants like yours? No demon: there is no such journal, no such blog.

      “What’s with all the … angry language?”

      I’m not a psychopath like you, but am like God: I get very angry at very evil sins, especially ones which people like you, justify in the name of forgiveness. But unlike God, my wrath is like a grain of sand compared to his, something your smug self conveniently forgets. Perhaps you might recall:

      “‘In your anger do not sin’ : Do not let the sun go down while you are still angry”

      Perhaps you might recall:

      Jehovah’s anger burns against his people; his hand is raised and he strikes them down. The mountains shake, and the dead bodies are like refuse in the streets. Yet for all this, his anger is not turned away, his hand is still upraised. – Isaiah 5:25

      Perhaps you might recall:

      “For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to Hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment; if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others; if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly; and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men 8(for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)— 9if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment. – 2 Peter 2:4-9

      Perhaps you might recall:

      “God judges the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day.” – Psalm 7:10-12

      Perhaps you might recall:

      Perhaps you might recall, liar, the words of truth from your supposed God:

      “You will recognize them by their fruits. Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?”

      Not, “Everyone is equally evil, everyone has the same fruits, thorns and thistles are the same as grapes and figs, just forgive.”

      It says, demon:

      “How long will you simple ones love your simple ways? How long will mockers delight in mockery and fools hate knowledge? – Proverbs 1:22,

      “For the waywardness of the simple will kill them, and the complacency of fools will destroy them” – Proverbs 1:32

      Did I censor you, you idiot? Do you think you are justified in whining about censorship to justify being allowed to say whatever you say? Would Satan be justified in saying to God: “What’s with all the censorship and angry words?” Yet you spoke just like Satan. If you are not saved, you will pay very severely for your conniving slander.

      It’s clearly you’re demonic self who is the ignorant assumer who ignores the Bible and arbitrarily chooses verses which suit his wicked heart.

    • March 25, 2010 at 10:53 PM

      By the way thoughtless demon: phantams are demons, why then does your email say, “happyphantom”? The Lord rebuke you.

  2. thought
    March 27, 2010 at 5:11 PM

    First of all, my e-mail sn had nothing to do with demons. Actually, it alluded to a song from a song several years ago. [a lot of text deleted by Knight]

    Peace out.

    • March 27, 2010 at 7:06 PM

      First of all, you should have expressed your sorrow for your literally sickening insults against me and for arrogantly wasting my time.

      And again: a phantom is a demon. Ghosts are not humans, and as Catholic you are supposed to know that. I used to talk with a girl who had an email that said somthing like, “thesweetestfallenangel” and repeatedly told her that if she loved God to use a different email. She refused and wouldn’t tell me why. She was a very corrupt person who pretended to listen to me but would later say she wasn’t, and insulted me a lot. A long time later, she said she was sorry in an email, but I knew that she hadn’t changed and no way was going to go through the Hell this fallen-angel lover put me through again, so didn’t even bother replying. Saying to God, “Well ‘fallen angel’ was just the title of a song I heard that I liked” wouldn’t work as an excuse to get him to forgive you for glorifying Satan. You’re emotions, once again, don’t justify you, that includes what you feel love for. A thing is not made good by man’s love for it, if that were so, that whatever God called evil would be good to whoever loved that evil.

      If you don’t like censoring, then stop censoring what I say by you’re ignoring it, and that also means by not bothering to take it seriously or correctly understand it and simply assuming you feel that you understand me, rather than using precise reasoning and knowing you are correct.

      And another refutation of your claim that I’m censoring for nothing, or which you implied whether intentionally or not, merely because someone disagreed with me, if I were biased, or as biased as you imply, why would I knowingly allow links to other blogs that argue against what I say? Though I’m actually thinking about preventing that from the stupid things I’ve been finding at these links.

      Peace wasn’t shown in the first words of your reply, and merely saying peace doesn’t make it peace. “With their mouths they bless but with their hearts they curse.”

  3. thought
    March 27, 2010 at 11:32 PM

    I responded to this because you obviously made an effort to be calm and I appreciate that. That said, we don’t have the same opinions.

    [too much for me to read deleted by knight]

    And if you didn’t know, “peace out” means “bye”.

    • March 28, 2010 at 6:28 AM

      Why do you talk to me like I’m retarded, when you’re obviously the ignorant one? In what way did I show that I didn’t know the meaning of peace? You do not know what the word peace means, otherwise you wouldn’t telling me that it merely means “bye”. If it merely means “bye” then why not just say that? Duh?

      And why did you call what I said “opinions” when they were facts? Facts are based on evidence, did you notice I used logic and cited the verses that refuted the ones you took out of context? Sir, stop insulting me, stop ranting and look in a dictionary to learn the meanings of the words you are using, and stop forgetting them. I’m sick of babying you and telling you repeatedly not to reason with your heart over your mind. The Bible forbids judging by mere emotion, and you’ve admitted that you have been giving me OPINIONS: BELIEFS NOT BASED ON FACTS.

      It’s your fault that you keep judging by how you feel about something when I’ve repeatedly pointed out that that is what you are doing. Judge based on facts, not “I feel”. Sometimes when people say, “It seems” they also mean, “It feels like this is so”, instead of meaning it seems a certain way to their mind based on what the facts they know.

      Do people add or substract by feelings? Animals really on insticts, feelings, and sometimes humans when they can’t figure something out clearly. Would you ever add or figure out grammar rules first or soley by how you feel? No, you’d study to see what the math and grammar rules are or for math when it gets very complicated use a computer, not opinions. They way you interpret the Bible is by not considering the other parts. It’s like someone adding some change but leaving out some rolls of pennies because he doesn’t want to deal with the tedium of counting them all, and yet declares the total amount of money he has and pretending the rolls of pennies don’t exist.

  4. thought
    March 27, 2010 at 11:56 PM

    as a side note, out of respect for your opinions and point of view, I have changed my e-mail.

    • March 28, 2010 at 1:22 AM

      it didn’t bother me, yet, just thought it said something important about your perspective of reality

  5. thought
    March 28, 2010 at 7:48 AM

    I’m not arguing by feelings. You’re being a hypocrite again. Read your own words and swallow them.

    You’re calling yourself retarded. I never said or implied you were.

    You didn’t use logic. You only used verses and were insulting. Seems to be a bad habit.

    My choice to say good-bye in my own way doesn’t need to be justified to you. “Peace out” as a phrase is pretty common, in America. And unfortunately you have to look at the whole phrase. If you want to go into semantics go ahead.

    Forget about it. This is turning into a counseling session and I only ever meant to comment on your actual article.

    “Bye”.

    • March 28, 2010 at 5:43 PM

      “I’m not arguing by feelings.”

      Because you feel so.

      “You’re being a hypocrite again.”

      Because you feel so.

      “Read your own words and swallow them.”

      Is that emotional statement evidence that you are right?

      “You’re calling yourself retarded.”

      Where did I say, “I am retarded”?

      “I never said or implied you were.”

      By giving me a basic lesson in a basic word when you are perfectly able to see I’m not ignorant like that you are virtually calling me retarded, and once again you’ve demonstrated your low intelligence and experience by failing to recognize a figure of speech. Obviously you’re not saying I’m literally retarded which I clearly indicated by pointing out that you don’t seem to realize you will annoy people when telling them the obvious, not, “by calling them retarded.” So it is you who are being a hypocrite by continuing to be impuslive in your judgments, careless in your judgments, judging by emotion. I can tell when I’m going to most likely get a stupid reply since very ignorant people who demonstrate great impatience (like you did with your first truth-careless reply) are repeat offenders (being that God rarely saves anyone). So, if you had waited days to carefully reconsider what to say next so that it didn’t end up being wrong, I would be much more likely to read it, especially if you don’t start out accusing me rather than expressing sorrow for your OBVIOUS mistakes.

      “You didn’t use logic.”

      Because you feel so. Notice how you don’t, unlike me, cite anything when you accuse? Even Satan brings up false evidence, you just spit. Your no where near as smart as your master.

      “You only used verses and were insulting.”

      See? No evidence. You are deeply blind and repetetition of basic truths rarely make it past your great wall of pride.

      “Seems to be a bad habit. ”

      Another conniving insult, not accompanied by evidence. Told you you were you demonic.

      “My choice to say good-bye in my own way doesn’t need to be justified to you.”

      Who said I needed to make your nonsensical “byes” just? Where does the Bible say: “show what people say to be right”? And what does how you say “bye” have to do with justice? I simply pointed out that you pointlessly said, “peace”. You’re failing left and right on word-definition issues and repeatedly showing yourself to be a vain babbler. And you’re obviously a teen let alone a narcissist pyschopath as is evident from the childish responses you’re giving me (which everyone can see by you merely making insults and claims with bitter remarks, like, “swallow your words” and this nonsense one: “doesnt need to be justified to you”. You’re so in love with your imaginary righteousness that you can’t even admit when you are wrong, for example with the email name issue, and so as not to make yourself look bad, slipped in that you were merely respecting my opinion. No humility to say, “You’re right, it could be perceived as demonic.” No, instead, “Okay I changed so as not to offend your opinion” (paraphrasing).

      ““Peace out” as a phrase is pretty common,”

      You’re engaging in logomachy, which the Bible forbids. Logomachy is arguing over words uselessly, by arguing over synonymous meanings. It’s contentious arguing (hateful arguing). Peace is not synonymous with “bye” and neither does “good” mean “bye”. It’s you who are ignorant as to why people say “peace” or “good” which is why you use it as the word “bye”. Peace means: (and once again I’m doing your job, you in your laziness have failed to look up the meaning of a basic word)

      –interjection
      11. (used to express greeting or farewell or to request quietness or silence).
      –verb (used without object)
      12. Obsolete. to be or become silent.
      —Idioms
      13. at peace,
      a. in a state or relationship of nonbelligerence or concord; not at war.
      b. untroubled; tranquil; content.

      And an interjection is:

      in·ter·jec·tion   /ˌɪntərˈdʒɛkʃən/ Show Spelled[in-ter-jek-shuhn] Show IPA
      –noun
      1. the act of interjecting.
      2. something interjected, as a remark.
      3. the utterance of a word or phrase expressive of emotion; the uttering of an exclamation.
      4. Grammar.
      a. any member of a class of words expressing emotion

      So, thoughtless, it isn’t simply saying, “bye”, when you interject it (include it along with) “out” (bye) it’s meant as a blessing if coming from a religious person or one claiming to be religious even if they are not. So you’ve shown you are either lying on purpose or not, if not, showing that you are once again ignorant about basic words and in this case, what you say below is even a common expression. You’ve shown that you are a psychopath, that you misperceive the emotions of others by that example and that you equate the abuse against children with something small like a child accidentally pushing another person with a moment of self-centeredness. You refuse to distinguish great evil from petty sin. And yet you say that everything I’ve said is not logical and merely insults, copying my point that that is what you do, like a parrot, like a bitter prideful kid with poor emotional self-control (which is the sign of a narcissist). So, you have virtually CURSED me at this point now, by wrangling sinfully over the meaning of your “bye”, wasting my time over it in your vanity, in you trying to appear wise when you are not. Another example: What do you think people mean when they say “fare well”? Does that also just mean, “bye”? No. Or “get lost”. Do you think that just means, “bye”? Or “seeya moron”? You lack common sense yet put up a vain childish stuggle to make it appear as if you have it.

      “in America. And unfortunately”

      Using “high” “pretty” words like that is another sign of a narcissist (in the context of the other signs you are showing of being a narcissist): they think, just like children, that using high words is what makes them mature / an adult and shows them to be wise, and often they use the word wrong, and you have, since what is unfortunate isn’t me being right, but you repeatedly embarassing yourself.

      “unfortunately you have to look at the whole phrase.”

      It’s a loss of something valuable that I have to read the “whole” phrase, “peace out”? What? And Mr. Thoughtless: the “whole” phrase is only two words. So you don’t think you’re virtually calling me retarded by saying I’ve failed to read TWO words? You don’t think that you are arrogant, when you see I am much much wiser than you, and you say to me, “You didn’t notice out you guy who merely insults and doesn’t use logic” after I accuse you of that WITH evidence? You’re a childish demon.

      “If you want to go into semantics go ahead.”

      No: I don’t want to go endlessly argue over words like you, I’m not mentally ill, and as I’ve shown, with evidence (not merely, “You are dumb” as you’ve slandered me here in front of the world as doing, when that’s more what you are doing) you are using the word “peace” mindlessly, without understanding why it’s said.

      “Forget about it.”

      You slander me and waste my time with more ranting then ask me to forget about it? Yet another psychopathic response: you show no concern for the hurt you inflicts on others.

      “This is turning into a counseling session”

      Merely insulting me and playing, “‘I know you are’ but I’m the wise counselor who says molesting 200 deaf kids is no more a reason to fire someone from being a protector of children and adults then if they accidentally pushed someone in a split second of carelessness and this is a fact, and it’s my opinion (both words mean the same thing)” is your idea of a counseling session? Consuing sins and confusing the meanings of basic words and denying you are WITHOUT evidence and denying that I’m showing any, childishly, wasting time that I could be using to save lives (and you you moron are the one that argued over semantics, which I literally told you you did by claiming I was only doing what Christ could do, “lead”), is “counseling”?
      So repeating back my telling you that you were (OBVIOUSLY) arguing over semantics on the “leading” is “counseling”? And it is you who are the hypocrite, as I’ve shown from my first words against you: Catholics claim that they can suffer for their own sins and EVEN BUY FORGIVENESS OF SINS! and yet THE BIBLE SAYS THAT ONLY GOD CAN DO THAT! And you dare hypocritically accuse me of taking Christ’s place in leading to him? Moron, which is greater: “leading” peple to Christ or claiming to be able to do his greatest work to save us: “taking away our sins”? Duh Thoughtless one? So why isn’t it blaspheming to say you can suffer for your sins or others or buy them away with pocket change (like God needs any money?) when the Bible says, “He BECAME sin for us”? But oh, “Hey I can suffer for them too! Hey I can buy forgiveness, forget becoming one with sin. Oh look at that Protestant hypocrite he said he can lead people to Christ! Insult him! Ban him from speaking! Oh look he dares censor what we say! Oh wait he’s not ALLways doing that but we won’t admit that because we must not admit that we are imperfect, sinners! Oh he’s claiming we abused and murdered tons of people, ok well to that I say, “We’re all sinners.”

      YOU! YOU ARE THE HYPOCRITE THOUGHTLESS ONE! YOU ARE THE ONE WHO CONTRADICTS YOURSELF AGAIN AND AGAIN YOU MORON WHO REPEATS BACK TO ME MY OWN CAREFULLY EVIDENCED ACCUSATIONS, WITHOUT EVIDENCE, and acting perfectly calm about it when you do childish things like that. You are truly mentally ill and should be arrested for repeated harassment and locked away in a mental institution till you can admit you’ve harassed, and unjustly.

      “and I only ever meant to comment on your actual article.”

      Oh you mean you didn’t intend to give good counsel and lead anyone to your version of Christ? It was just you making empty rantings? Okay Mr. Innocent.

      “Bye”.

      Why didn’t you say, “peace out”? Don’t you know that they mean the same thing (according to you)?

      What will you do next, molest and rape and murder 200 mute children and then shrug it off and claim that you still deserve to be free and keep any job that you have because you feel that all sin is equal and that your word on that is equal to God’s? When will you stop casually blaspheming?

      Now arrogant psychopath, now that you’ve had more than enough clear evidence, as has everyone else, that I don’t merely censor for no apparent reason or for evil reasons, and that you are an evil narcissist psychopath and extremely ignorant, lazy, conniving and childish one, don’t insult me again, don’t slander me again, and stop harassing me.

  6. clement
    March 6, 2012 at 8:13 AM

    Hypocrisy within the Roman Catholic Church’s Religious Orders and the ever increasing number of perverts , both male and female, leaves the Church as a ‘dead corpse’ awaiting last rites of the funeral. The Holy BIBLE does not have a word about Roman Catholic Church, Vows of CELIBACY, AUSTERITY AND THE WORST ‘OBEDIENCE’ as propagated by the CORPORATE ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH. NEITHER IS THERE METHODIST, LUTHERAN, ANGLICAN, SYRIAN ORTHODOX AND THE OVER 38,000 SECTS OF CHRISTI -ANITY. Nun hood is also man=made not Supernatural or Biblical. The only nunnery is in Acts 21 vs 7 , 8 where in Cesarea , PAUL visits the house of the evangelist PHILIP who has 4 unmarried daughters who proclaim the message of God. All nunneries across the globe are unBiblical and domains where pervert Roman Catholic priests and nuns have ‘unlimited orgies’. A daring nun of the CMC order in South india, Dr Sr. JESME has authored ‘AMEN-THE AUTOBIOGRAPHY OF A NUN ” , a book which is banned by the Roman Catholic Church in india, has given her account , which is the tip of the iceberg, about the true life of the Religious which is contrary to what the laity and the non-believers hold as very sacred. She has given a clarion call to the Pope to call for the 3rd Vatican Council. 99% of celibates must be allowed to marry and only 1 % of the true celibates must be allowed to retain the Vows. She was given psychiatric treatment for spilling the beans in public. i, pleaded Her Excellency, Mrs. Pratibha Patil, Hon’ble President of INDIA to give her state protection from pervert lobbies of Religious domain. WOMEN ORDINATION is the NEED OF THE HOUR. THE SACRAMENT OF CONFESSION, the WEAK NERVE of the Roman Catholic Church should be out rightly abolished. It has no relevance in modern times. The priests themselves should confess their immoral acts to the laity. The RASCALS like Rev. Lawrence Murphy , should be allowed to be dealt with the Laws of the Land of any Sovereign nation. if any pervert goes scot free, it will be deemed to be VIOLATION OF INTERNATIONAL BILATERAL RELATIONSHIPS. . .

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