A Challenge for Muslims: 20 Questions

This post can found at http://islamrefuted.tk

Muslims who know the Bible, as you know, the Bible and Qur’an cannot both be true, yet the Quran urges you to read about Isa in the Quran and in the Bible (Sura 5:46; 10:94-95).

The Quran also says in Surah 3:45-47, that some angels said, “O Mary!: Allah announces to you a Word from himself, whose name is ‘the Messiah’: Jesus, son of Mary, and to be honoured in this world and the hereafter, and by those who draw near. He will speak to the people in his infancy and in maturity, and will be one of the righteous.” She said, “How shall I bear a son when no one has touched me?” He replied, “Even so, Allah creates what he wills. When he decrees a matter, he only says to it Be! and it comes to be.”

From the translation of Surah 3:45-47, the Quran appears to be saying that the name of Allah, is “the Messiah”, in other words that Jesus is God.

In Surah 19:16-22 the Qur’an repeats that Mary was to conceive Jesus in a special way, and that there was to be something unique and special about Jesus beyond how he was born. Besides the virgin-birth is emphasized more than twice in the Quran also by the title it gives consistently to him, “ibn Maryam, the son of Mary” and no other female is named in the Quran.

Surah 19:19 says, “I am only a messenger of your Lord, to announce to you a faultless son.” As some Muslims may know from the Bible, many things Jesus allegedly said are recorded. It’s not unreasonable to believe, that even if Jesus’ word were corrupted by Jews, that there weren’t simply inventing things he said, otherwise they would have said that Jesus said things which were clearly sinful, rather than work against themselves by having him say things which made them look foolish and severely evil, and Jesus seem to appear to be truthful and having great zeal for the truth to the point of what many today would call “fanaticism” or “obsession”. The religious Jews, the Pharisees and Sadducees especially would have rather been seen as obsessed and fanatical about the truth, and yet if they were making up things and saying that Jesus said them, then they failed miserably at this, and so great a failure that at least in my opinion, that they didn’t make up the New Testament or corrupt it.

I’m sure that the Quran teaches these things about Jesus and Mary will be evidence to many Muslims that the Quran is God’s word, because why, if it were a deception from Satan, would Satan mention these things about Jesus, and sabotage himself by leading people to Jesus, if through him eternal peace could be found? But to refute that logic all one needs to do is remember that Satan isn’t someone who only tells a pure lie, someone who simply says the exact opposite of everything, but he is known for subtle lies that because of their subtlety, are hard to notice with great attention. And such hard to notice lies steer many people just far enough from the truth. In Christianity an example would the Seventh Day Adventist cult, who are almost a mirror image of true Christians, with one main difference being that they believe that you must be immersed in water (baptized) to be forgiven of your sins and they believe that eternal peace can be lost, forgetting that eternal, means just what it says, and not “temporary”. They also believe that the word of the woman started their branch of Christianity was necessary to interpret the Bible (though may not admit or deny that), even though her word didn’t come till about 2000 years later, which is clearly an absurd belief then. These are a mere three differences in beliefs, and seemingly of no important matter if you are half asleep. In contrast, an easier to notice lie for Christians who knew the Bible well, would be, “Jesus was merely a very wise and righteous man,” or “Just believe Jesus is God and only do what you feel is right for you,” or, “We must obey all the laws in the Old Testament forever”.

The Quran does not teach that Jesus is the savior of the world, that God through others and directly inflicted great suffering and death upon Jesus as transference of punishment, in other words, “a substitute” punishment for others, in order for them to enjoy eternal peace, and that their trust in Jesus as having done this and that he was perfect was necessary for this, and trust that he would return as their eternal king. So no Muslim can truthfully say there Bible and Quran are in agreement in the most important things.

It only took me about about 2 hours to think up and write these questions, and in my exhaustion and because my computer is very slow. My challenge is clear and simple, so, if it takes you longer than a day to refute my concise and simple points with your own, then your religion must be wrong. Here is my challenge: solve my questions with clear, concise logical answers:

(1) If the Bible cannot be trusted because it was corrupted by Jews (or that certain books which were God’s word were magically vanished by the Catholic Church as many ignorant pagans claim), then why do Muslims also claim that it was because God did away with the Bible to replace it with something better? Which is it?: The Jews defeated God or God negated his word? (2) How could a few mere Jews defeat God by corrupting his word so that no one would know what God truly said? Wasn’t God powerful and intelligent enough to tell everyone what the Jews lied about or to hide a copy somewhere to be found later, as he did with the Dead Sea Scrolls? (3) According to one Muslim, the Jews didn’t defeat God, but God allowed himself his word to be corrupted, but if that is true, then why would God allow his word to be corrupted? (4) Why was God’s first word not important enough to protect? Was it because man’s word, man’s lies, were more important? And note that though God allows man to ruin things which he made and things which man makes so that he can serve God, (5) If God’s word is perfect and nothing which is perfect thing can’t be made better/improved, why then do Muslims say that God’s “second book” (the Qur’an) is better then his first (the Bible)? (6) How does saying, “God didn’t protect his word” change the fact that God’s first word was defeated, that the Jews had victory over God’s first word? Victory means: “A successful ending of a struggle or contest.” If someone turns my word into a lie, how did they not achieve victory over my word even if I let them turn it into a lie? (7) If  the answer is, “God wanted the world to believe in lies” then why not simply  allow some copies of his word to be corrupt and some to be correct? Why replace what he said with another book? (8) If it is not blasphemy to say that God allowed his first word to be defeated by very small amount of Jews, then why is it blasphemy to say that God represented himself with a messenger which he allowed the patriarch of Israel, Jacob, to defeat in a game of wrestling between  a Father and his son (loved creation)?  (9) Why didn’t God simply say “what was best” with his first book? In other words: Why did he make an inferior one? Wouldn’t that be a reasonless waste of time? (10) Why did God only allow a few people to know his first word? Wasn’t it worth showing to the whole world, to billions of people, and nos just a few,  like Moses, Joshua, Aaron, Isaac, Jacob, Esau, Ishmael, Jesus and Mohammed? (11) If the words of the original Bible cannot be known, then how can anyone, let alone a Muslim, claim that the Quran is superior? Aren’t you are making an imaginary comparison if you cannot show anyone the original Bible? (12) If God can simply negate his word, then why should anyone believe he won’t do so with the Quran? What is the evidence that he won’t negate his statements and what he implies in the Quran if he merely throws away what he says before with no evident reason why? (13) Not only are you unable to compare the original Bible with the Quran, but you can’t even show that there was another word of God, which again, is because you claim that no one can know what it is. (14) How is the Qu’an better if the Bible has more historical evidence, and less debatable evidence? (15) Why if the Jews didn’t want anyone to know that they corrupted the Bible, but instead wanted the world to believe that they were trustworthy, would they often mention that most of them were evil in nearly everything they wrote about themselves? The prophets Isaiah and Daniel also spoke of themselves as sinners. Further, as one anti-Christian Muslim pointed out, the Bible even says, “How do you say, We are wise, and the Law of Jehovah is with us? Lo, certainly the lying pen of the scribes has written falsely.” (Jeremiah 8:8). Before that Jeremiah said, “from the prophet even to the priest everyone deals falsely.” – Jeremiah 6:13. The prophet Isaiah said, “Woe: a sinful nation, a people heavy with iniquity, a seed of evildoers, sons who corrupt! They have forsaken Jehovah; they have provoked the Holy One of Israel to anger; they have gone away backward. Why should you be stricken any more? You will revolt more and more; the whole head is sick, and the whole heart faint. From the sole of the foot even to the head there is no soundness in it; only a wound and a stripe and a fresh blow; they have not been closed, nor bound up, nor soothed with oil. … Bring no more vain sacrifice; incense is an abomination to Me; the new moon and sabbath, the going to meeting; I cannot endure evil and the assembly! Your new moons and your appointed feasts My soul hates; they are a trouble to Me; I am weary to bear them. And when you spread out your hands, I will hide My eyes from you; yea, when you make many prayers, I will not hear; your hands are full of blood. Wash yourselves, make yourselves clean; put away the evil of your doings from before My eyes; cease to do evil; learn to do good; seek judgment, reprove the oppressor. [(Correctly)] judge the orphan, plead [(mercy)] for the widow.” (Isaiah 1:4-6, 14-17). King David said, “All have gone aside, together they are filthy; there is none who does good, no, not one.” (Psalm 14:3). Even in the Books of Moses it says, “Jehovah said to Moses, I have seen this people, and behold, they are a stiff-necked people.” (Exodus 32:9), “Jehovah said to Moses, “Behold, you shall sleep with your fathers. And this people shall rise up and go lusting after the gods of the strangers of the land into which they are going, into their midst. And they will forsake Me and break My covenant which I made with them. Then My anger shall be kindled against them in that day, and I will forsake them. And I will hide My face from them, and they shall be devoured, and many evils and troubles shall befall them, so that they will say in that day, Have not these evils come on us because our God is not among us? And I will surely hide My face in that day for all the evils which they have done, for they shall turn to other gods. Now, therefore, write this song for you, and teach it to the sons of Israel. Put it in their mouths, so that this song may be a witness for Me against the sons of Israel. For when I shall have brought them into the land which I swore to their fathers, the land that flows with milk and honey, and they shall have eaten and have become satisfied, and become fat, then turn to other gods and serve them, and provoke Me and break My covenant. And it shall be when many evils and troubles have found them, this song shall testify against them as a witness. For it shall not be forgotten out of the mouths of their seed. For I know their imagination which they do, even now, before I have brought them into the land which I swore.” And Moses wrote this as a song the same day, and taught it to the sons of Israel. And he commanded Joshua the son of Nun, and said: Be strong and of a good courage. For you shall bring the sons of Israel into the land which I swore to them, and I will be with you. Moses commanded the Levites who carried the ark of the covenant of Jehovah, saying, Take this book of the Law, and put it in the side of the ark of the covenant of Jehovah your God, so that it may be there for a witness against you. For I know your rebellion and your stiff neck. Behold, while I am still alive with you today, you have been rebellious against Jehovah. And how much more after my death? Gather to me all the elders of your tribes, and your officers, so that I may speak these words in their ears, and call Heaven and earth to record against them. For I know that after my death you will become utterly corrupt, and turn aside from the way which I have commanded you. And evil will happen to you in the latter end of the days, because you will do evil in the sight of Jehovah, to provoke Him to anger through the work of your hands.” (Deuteronomy 31:16-29). And in the Book of Mark it says: the Pharisees and scribes asked [Jesus], “Why do your disciples not walk according to the tradition of the elders, but eat loaves with unwashed hands” And he answered and said to them, “Well has Isaiah prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, ‘This people honors Me with their lips, but their heart is far from Me. However, they worship Me in vain, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.’ For you lay aside the commandment of God, but hold the tradition of men” (Mark 7:5-8). And  in the Book of the Doctor Luke, it says, “a certain Pharisee asked Him to dine with him. And He went in and reclined. And when the Pharisee saw it, he was amazed that He had not first washed before dinner. And the Lord said to him, Now you Pharisees make the outside of the cup and the platter clean, but your inward part is full of plunder and wickedness. Fools! Did not He who made the outside also make the inside? But give alms of such things as you have, and behold, all things are clean to you. But woe to you, Pharisees! For you tithe mint and rue and every herb, and pass over judgment and the love of God. You ought to have done these, and not to leave the other undone.” (Luke 11:37-42). And in Book of the Apostle John it says, “the Pharisees said to Him, You bear record concerning yourself; your witness is not true. … Abraham is our father. Jesus answered them, If you were Abraham’s children, you would do the works of Abraham. But now you seek to kill Me, a man who has told you the truth which I have heard beside God; this Abraham did not do. You do the deeds of your father. Then they said to Him, We are not born of fornication; we have one father, even God. Jesus said to them, If God were your father, you would love Me, for I went forth and came from God; for I did not come of Myself, but He sent Me. Why do you not know My speech? Because you cannot hear My Word. You are of the Devil as father, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and did not abide in the truth because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own, for he is a liar and the father of lies. And because I tell you the truth, you do not believe Me.” (John 8:13,39-45), and, “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! Because you build the tombs of the prophets, and decorate the tombs of the righteous, and say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets. Therefore you are witnesses to yourselves, that you are the sons of those who killed the prophets; and you fill up the measure of your fathers. Serpents! Offspring of vipers! How can you escape the condemnation of hell? Therefore, behold, I send prophets and wise men and scribes to you. And you will kill and crucify some of them. And some of them you will scourge in your synagogues and persecute from city to city; so that on you may come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah the son of Berachiah, whom you killed between the temple and the altar. Truly I say to you, All these things shall come on this generation. O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one killing the prophets and stoning those who are sent to her, how often would I have gathered your children together, even as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you would not! Behold, your house is left to you desolate. For I say to you, You shall not see Me from now on until you say, “Blessed is He who comes in the name of the Lord.” (Matthew 23:30-39).

16) Why would the Jews let everyone know that the Bible could be corrupted or lost if they wanted to deceive everyone into thinking it was true? Are only bad things that God says about the Jews true? Doesn’t even the Quran say good things about Jews and even Christians, and that they will go to Heaven?  17) Why do anti-Bible Muslims say certain verses in the Bible are evidence that the Bible is corrupt because it says it can be or was totally corrupted? It’s a contradiction to say, “These verses are God’s true word” but to also say, “The Bible was lost“. 18) Why are there countless archeological evidences for the Bible and almost none in comparison for the Quran? Further, the Quran’s evidence is heavily disputed. Shouldn’t the opposite be true if the Qur’an is a superior version of his word? Here are examples of evidence for the Bible discussed on various websites (and in one pay-to-read document):

Note: if any links are expired or not working you might still find them on archive.org just copy the url into the second search engine on that page:

Biblical cities (1)
General archeology (2)
General (3)
Genera (4)
General (5)
Jerusalem wall (6)
A Dead Sea Tablet Which Indicates Christianity Was Original Religion of the Jews (7)
A Pay to Read Article (8)
General (9)
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General (11)
General (12)
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Petrified forests (18)
geological evidence which refutes Big Bang/evolutionist geology (19)
General: Why I Don’t Have Faith In “No God” (20)
General (21)
Joseph’s tomb (22)
The James Ossuary (an ancient/human bone storage box) which says, “James, son of Joseph, brother of Jesus” 23
Pre-flood Archeology (24)
Pre-flood (25)
Pre-flood (26)
The Shroud of Turin (27)
Bible Prophecies (this isn’t archeology directly but ancient prophecies have been verified at times by ancient archeological research 28)
Geological: Island formation (29)

Here is a list of 100 alleged contradictions in the Bible and here are even more contradictions and arguments against the Bible, all shown false, which shows the hopelessness of arguing against it. I personally have refuted over 400 arguments against the Bible, and many variations of them, some of which I thought of myself, but I haven’t finished the book yet and it isn’t available. Here are examples of alleged evidence for the Quran: (1) (2) (3) (4) (5) (6) (7). I’ve included the supposed Muslims evidence along with arguments against them, because anyone can show a list of evidence with no challenges (and my journal contains or links to hundreds challenges against the Bible, all of which turned out to be illogical arguments).  (17) Which verse in the Quran replaced and is better that this one?: “Don’t lie.” (18) Which passage in the Quran replaced and is better than this one?:

One of the teachers of the law came and heard [(the  Sadducees and Jesus)] debating. Noticing that Jesus had given them a good answer, he asked him, “Of all the commandments, which is the most important? “The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one. Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’ The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no commandment greater than these.” “Well said, teacher,” the man replied. “You are right in saying that God is one and there is no other but him. To love him with all your heart, with all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices.” When Jesus saw that he had answered wisely, he said to him, “You are not far from the kingdom of God.” And from then on no one dared ask him any more questions.

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  1. Mervyn Charles
    March 21, 2010 at 2:09 AM

    TRUTH IN THE BIBLE [massive “cut and paste” mindless shallow psychopathic narcissistic rant deleted by Knight]

    • March 21, 2010 at 2:22 AM

      You wouldn’t know truth if it stabbed you repeatedly in the face:

      I don’t read massive rants that are irrelevant to a post. That’s called “spam” and I consider it to be harassment. Try not doing either for once. And unlike you, I have a life, hence why unlike you, I am concise, and you rant, arrogantly and in your stupidity thinking that anyone would waste their time reading a massive rant. Why would I, who makes sense and was concise in my post, read your massive rant? Why are you so dumb and hypocritical like that? Because you hate thinking, hate being truthful and that is why you hate God.

      Further, I don’t read shallow rehash that was defeated years ago (trying use a search engine, without lopsided bias, you know what I mean don’t you?). Try to use your brain, not your fingers and beak. Think for yourself. Stop repeating like a mindless moron. As soon as I saw you mention the name of a false god and comparing it to Jesus, that’s as soon as I realized you were a parroting moron who could care less about the truth, but is only interested in justifying his lusts. You wasted your time, and mine. And moron, obey the Bible when it says, “Don’t lie” and “Don’t murder”. Truth in history is: Atheists have killed 150,000,000 people in less than 100 years in the past 90 years, and murdered countless millions of babies in the name of saving dirt and air while ranting that everyone is going to die from a one degree rise in temperature and world wide flooding, and oh my God no, because, watch out: the weather changes. Truth is, a scientific study by scientists (you know what science is right moron?) showed that environmentalists were more immoral than non-environmentalists. Now why doesn’t that surprise me? Make sure that you aren’t mentally ill: http://narcissist.tk If you suspect you are (hint: you support mass murder in the name of progress and saving people – psychopath), ask God for help.

      And if you’re wondering why I didn’t bother replying to anything specific you said: why should I when you started off not answering anything I said and ranted instead? What does your rant have to do with Islam? Does this say anything about atheism? No. This isn’t Yahoo Answers where you get to post any hateful thing against Christians that you want and get rewarded for it.

      Next time, if you can, learn to be concise. Second, the Bible says not to get into arguments of ignorance, and you are clearly an ignorant: use a search engine for something other than reading “Why Christianity is wrong” and repeating refuted authors and morons like yourself who can’t stop mindlessly repeating (that’s a sign of mental illness). THINK. One more clue for you: notice my other entries? Notice the links on the side of my journal? No: because you’re a self-centered, narrow-minded biased zombie who makes assumptions that whatever Christian he talks to is a lazy idiot like himself. You are a lazy moron in comparison to me, see? Can you read things other than “Why Christianity is wrong”? Try. And try to stop supporting mass murder, including the murder of millions of babies without even anesthetizing them. If you expected me to read your massive rant, much much longer then this reply, then you should have no problem reading this reply. You massively fail, because you assumed.

      Update 11:49 P.M.:

      Sorry: The wordpress search engine is horrible, I’ve improved a few tags and categories though to help fix that, and in this post here I’ve linked to many evidences for the historical accuracy of the Bible, so, you have no excuse if you are have a good computer and Internet connection, have time to read and can still read well.

      • March 25, 2010 at 4:18 PM

        I dont do search engines. I dont have that much time to waste on computers. I write my own stuff and if I copy and paste my own stuff you envy me when you attempt to cut me down.

        I am the author of The Age Of Reason and no one has ever done such work because people are lazy and follow and do not THINK.

        You are the search engine expert even by the mere mention of it.

        You vicious and senseless rant [massively long rant consisting of 3156 words not including the ones in this post, deletedby knight (if you don’t believe me and want to read the 3156 word long rant just ask for the original text which I’ve saved to a text file, sure as won’t waste my valuable time reading)]

        Amen

      • March 25, 2010 at 4:45 PM

        “I dont do search engines.”

        Did you find my journal with your magical powers?

        ” I dont have that much time to waste on computers”

        Yeah it wastes a massive amount of time to type “evidence” and “bible” in to a search engine and read the search results, yet you expect everyone to have the time and read your your 3200+ word rant. Insane hypocrite. Why can’t you detect your own contradictions and extreme stupidity?

        “I am the author of The Age Of Reason”

        Oh you must be God then.

        “and no one has ever done such work because people are lazy and follow and do not THINK”

        And you know that no one has ever done such work because….? So all the work on those evil useless computers (one of which you’re using) doesn’t really exist? So all the research in the world that helped your evil ranting self to live comfortably and be able to talk to people on computers was nothing compared to your age of reason huh? Moron: if you only read a little, and only what you feel like, how can you say yours is the greatest work and that everyone else is lazy? Does your religion command you: “Thou shalt be a lazy assumer and call everyone else lazy with vicious hatred”? Obviously it does.

        And if people do not think then I must not be one of them, otherwise why were so compelled to reply to me with a 3200+ long rant when I’m a mere vicious ranter who doesn’t think? You must think I’m someone great, and have a lot of hope that I’d praise you as a great thinker.

        And if you hate those horrible useless time-wasting search engines and computers so much: stop using them, lose your email and blog, and go live in some place where microchips don’t exist. Then see how much fun you have preaching in those places.

        So you think you’d know anything about “reason” when you merely say what you feel to be true? You know enough about reason to avoid it, that’s clear.

        If you can’t be bothered to read about the evidence for the Bible, let alone my smallest post on the Bible, then I don’t have the time to read your insane 3200+ rants about me being vicious and ranting. How could you know if I’m a vicious ranter if you don’t bother to read what I say, or carefully, and are so stupid that you think search engines and computers are useless, yet use them to rant your slander at me? Insane hypocrite. Turn to God if you want to be able to make sense and stop assuming and bashing your emotions on people, and get some dictionaries and learn what “evidence”, “truth”, “reason”, “reality”, “love”, “mercy”, and “justice” mean. Hint: it doesn’t mean whatever you feel with your magically infallible heart tells you they mean. Try using your mind to reason things out for once, not your heart.

        I repeat: turn to God if you want to be able to make sense and break free of your narcissism.

  2. Sam
    March 21, 2010 at 2:52 AM

    2) God did’nt take the responsibility to protect his older revelations,
    5) But in Quran He said that he has taken the responsibility to protect it.

    • March 21, 2010 at 2:58 AM

      “2) God did’nt take the responsibility to protect his older revelations
      5) But in Quran He said that he has taken the responsibility to protect it.”

      What happened to 1-4 and 6-10? Not only that, you repeated what I already said.

      What if I said to you, “I’ve corrupted a few copies of the Qur’an by changing some verses in them and made a new book and said it was God’s word, and so then the Qur’an” didn’t count anymore because he decided to “unprotect” it? Would you like it if I said that to you, and without evidence?

  3. Mohamed
    March 24, 2010 at 12:27 AM

    God did that intentionally because he is merciful, how?. I will tell you. when the God send a messenger or prophets and people see the miracles by their eyes million of people follow this religion and the believer decrease with time. This is because people change the facts, so the God sends another messenger and the people follow him again. All the book are the same, but finally, world became modern and good send the prophet od Islam, the only difference between the Qur’an and the other three books is that the Qu’ran is a miracle itself so if you read the Qur’an which is 1400 years ago you will find most of current discoveries written in the book and the God protect this book to be the messenger of the God to all people in this modern world.

    • March 24, 2010 at 1:44 AM

      “God did that intentionally because he is merciful[.] [H]ow?. I will tell you[:] when the God send[s] a messenger or prophets[,] and people see the miracles [that they do with] their eyes[,] million[s] of people follow th[at] religion [but] the believer[s] decrease[s] with time.”

      1) How is it merciful for believers to decrease with time?

      2) I didn’t ask how people became saved, so why are you talking about that?

      “This is because people change the facts,”

      1) And why do they change the facts?
      2) And how does restating what I’ve already said, which is that Muslims claim that God allowed his word to be corrupted, which you call “changing the facts” answer why I’ve asked why he allowed that to happen?

      “so […] God sends another messenger and the people follow him again.

      1) How does that statement answer my questions?

      2) Why are you repeating what I obviously already know?

      “All the book are the same,”

      1) All the books of the Bible are not the same and neither is the Qur’an the same as the Bible.

      “but finally, world became modern”

      What does the world becoming “modern” have to do with anything? There isn’t one “modern” time, modern means “present” and everyone who is born experiences countless presents. Or did you mean “technologically advanced”? If so, what does that have to do with my questions either? And “technologically advanced” in what way? The world has always had great technological advances in various places and many large areas of little advanced technology or none, just like today. The whole world is not technologically advanced even today. For example there are 300 million poor Chinese persons and about 450 million poor Indians in India, about 530,000 poor American and Alaskan Native Americans and hundreds of thousands of poor Native Canadians (1) (2), 62 million poor Pakistanis and 540 million Africans who are poor, and hundreds of millions of them don’t have electricity. (1) (2).

      “and [God] sen[t] the prophet o[f] Islam[.]”

      1) What is your point that he is considered a prophet of Islam? He’s a prophet to Muslims and others who don’t know God. Haven’t you ever heard of a false prophet? What is the evidence that he is a prophet of God? None: you didn’t bother reading the refuted evidences of of the Qur’an that I linked to either, let alone read my post carefully.

      “[T]the only difference between the Qur’an and the other three books is that the Qu’ran is a miracle itself[,]”

      1) What is your evidence that “it is a miracle itself”.
      2) What is your evidence that “the other three books” are not miracles? Why don’t you look at the evidence I conveniently laid out for you? It’s beccause you are a self-centered, vain, ignorance-loving babbler who could care less about the truth and wants everyone to worship his heart instead of God. You are evil.

      “so if you read the Qur’an”

      I have read it you moron, what do you think I am commenting on it in detail for. And I wrote a book on it’s insane verses. Stop assuming. When you assume things about me and ignore the clear simple things I’ve written for you out of love, you greatly insult me and much worse: God.

      [(]which is 1400 years ago[),]

      1) Who cares if it is from 1400 years ago? The oldest book in the Bible is about 6400 years old and the last about 1930 years old, and has multiple witnesses, when your Qur’an only has ONE. Why only ONE when your laws require more than three witnesses to convict a man of raping a woman you hypocritical sexist moron? Which is more important!: TO HAVE MORE THAN THREE WITNESSES TO CONVICT A PERSON OF RAPING A WOMAN, OR MORE THAN THREE TO WITNESS WHAT GOD TOLD US WAS THE TRUTH!

      “you will find most of current discoveries written in the book”

      1) I did you evil time-wasting babbler.

      “and th[at] God protect[ed] this book to be the messenger of […] God to all people in this modern world.”

      Evil moron: take your own hypocritical advice and study the evidence for Bible and against Qur’an as a patiently and carefully put here for you. You are more evil than a violent parrot and one of the most evil people alive. Be ashamed and turn to God lest you are sent to Hell right away.

    • March 24, 2010 at 5:08 PM

      On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 12:26:43 -0600 Mohamed Abd El-kader wrote:

      Please be more polite, you know who is the liar. Do not allow
      yourself to deceive you. And please tell me which Bible I should
      read[…]

      And this was my reply about three minutes ago from posting this reply on my journal:

      You are the impolite one for babbling in ignorance and I am the good one for giving you the evidence you were to lazy and careless to read. Even now you still won’t do it but continue to point your evil finger at me as the one responsible for your ignorance. And idiot: I will not do all the thinking and work for you that you are responsible for doing. You are condemning yourself by your sick vile hypocrisy, your demonic hypocrisy. You are rude, not me you evil time wasting idiot.

      Tell me psychopath: which translation of the Qur’an should I read?

      YOUR OWN HYPOCRITE ARGUMENTS DEFEAT YOU AND YOU ARE SO BLINDED BY HATE AND FULL OF HATE FOR THE TRUTH THAT YOU CAN’T FIGURE OUT OBVIOUS MISTAKES IN YOUR ARGUMENTS WHICH USING YOUR OWN ARGUMENTS: SHOW YOUR RELIGION TO BE FALSE. YOU EVIL ONE, YOU FIGURE OUT WHICH TRANSLATION IS BEST. STOP ASKING ME AND OTHER CHRISTIANS IN YOUR BIAS TO DO ALL THE WORK FOR YOU YOU LAZY HYPOCRITE. USE A SEARCH ENGINE LIKE I HAVE FOR LAZY IDIOTS LIKE YOU. IF YOU CAN’T BE BOTHERED TO READ THE EVIDENCE I ALREADY GAVE YOU IDIOT, WHEN THEN DO YOU ASK FOR MORE?

      IF YOU DON’T TELL ME WHICH TRANSLATION OF THE QUR’AN I SHOULD READ; NEITHER WILL I TELL YOU WHAT TRANSLATION OF THE BIBLE YOU SHOULD READ AND NEITHER WILL I READ THE REST OF YOUR CONTENTIOUS, HYPCORITICAL REPLY. [end]

      And here is an additional response:

      Was it polite for you to tell me not to deceive myself when you had not evidence for that? Was it polite for you to tell me not to deceive myself when I refuted your reply and pointed out how useless and time-wasting and lazy it was? You are the deceiver, not me.

    • March 24, 2010 at 9:57 PM

      From: Mohamed Abd El-kader
      Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 00:16:29 -0600

      As you may know the Qu’ran is only in Arabic language. […]

      My reply to Mohamed Abd El-kader:

      As you may know (but imply that you don’t) the Bible is only in the Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek language.

      Tell me: why are you arguing with me out of ignorance of the Bible? Does the Qur’an say: You shall argue out of ignorance against your enemy and argue AGAINST in ignorance against that which you admit is God’s word?

      And what is your evidence that you are a Muslim?

  4. Mervyn Charles
    March 25, 2010 at 11:14 PM

    STOP THE BLAH BLAH AND PROVE ME WRONG IF YOU HAVE ANY BRAIN LEFT FROM YOUR BRAINWASH AND YOUR BLINDNESS.

    READ THE AGE OF REASON BY M A RAHEEM AND MERVYN C cHARLES AT http://WWW.XLIBRIS.COM AND SEE WHAT THAT DOES TO YOUR COMPLETE BRAINWASH AND IF YOU CAN BE HELPED TO RECOVER FROM THE BRAINWASH.

    YOU CANNOT BE ALL FILTHY HATRED AND NO INTELLIGENCE.

    SOMEWHERE AT THE BACK OF YOUR DAMAGED BRAIN THERE MUST BE A BIT OF SOUL LEFT FOR YOU TO SEEK AND FIND.

    JESUS SAID YOU MUST CUT OFF THE HAND OR PLUCK OUT THE EYE THAT NOURISHES YOUR HATRED AND LOSS AND HE CANNOT HELP YOU BUY YOU’VE GOT TO HELP YOURSELF BUT I AM OFFERING TO HELP YOU FREE OF CHARGE.

    AMEN AND ALLAHUAKBARR!

  5. March 26, 2010 at 5:15 PM

    Christians and Muslims seem afraid to examine their Scripture [massive rant deleted by knight]

    • March 26, 2010 at 6:55 PM

      Stalker: I don’t care what “seems” to you / your feelings: try reading outside your head for once so you can notice the obvious. Stop stalking me and stop harassing me and stop trying to force your opnions on me. Stop talking to me since you refuse to examine Scipture honestly and and since you judge it by the corrupt standards of your heart, which are meant to suit your feelings, but not the truth. God bless you as he always does, till your ungrateful blind-to-the-obvious self thanks him with love.

  6. March 27, 2010 at 4:08 AM

    Our Muslim belief in the Bible is that God sent the Torah to Moses(Peace be upon him), and the Gospel to Jesus (Peace be upon him), but this doesn’t mean that the Pentateuch or the four Gospels present now are those sent to Moses and Jesus (Peace be upon them), the case is that the Torah and Gospel and other prophets’ books have been subjected to a lot of corruption and interpolations that the right scripts are mixed with false

    [common Muslim mere claims without evidence and mere claims from the Qur’an deleted by knight]

    Deu 4:1 And now, O Israel, hearken unto the statutes and unto the ordinances, which I teach you, to do them; that ye may live, and go in and possess the land which Jehovah, the God of your fathers, giveth you. Deu 4:2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish from it, that ye may keep the commandments of Jehovah your God which I command you.

    This script clearly tells that interpolation in the Bible can happen, and it is not impossible because if it was, there would have been no need that God warns them against it.

    • March 27, 2010 at 6:03 AM

      “Our Muslim belief in the Bible is that God sent the Torah to Moses(Peace be upon him), and the Gospel to Jesus (Peace be upon him), but this doesn’t mean that the Pentateuch or the four Gospels present now are those sent to Moses and Jesus (Peace be upon them),”

      You say, “peace be upon him” so much that you can’t think straigt. You’re distracting yourself and everyone else when you do that. Further, you are repeating common knowledge and what I’ve already said I know. You’ve insulted me by repeating and wasting my time.

      “the case is that the Torah and Gospel and other prophets’ books have been subjected to a lot of corruption and interpolations that the right scripts are mixed with false”

      Because your feelings say so? Because your friends say so? Because enemies of God say so? I don’t care about your repetition, your arguments, WITHOUT EVIDENCE. I care about evidence and evidence is not, “the fact is” or “the case is” or “I feel” or “this is true because Mohemmed said so” or “this is true because the Qur’an said Jews are real and therefore because it got that right and a few other things right everything else it says must be true”. No: the case is is that that’s false and stupid childish thinking.

      “This [verse says] that men can make God’s first book unknowable,”

      Less dramatic isn’t it? And to that I say: No it doesn’t at all say that “man can make God’s word unknowable.” You’ve deluded yourself and are merely repeating what you’ve been told. If God commands man: don’t make Earth turn into ball of smoke, does that mean that man has the ability to do that? And, when God says, “Don’t lie” does that mean that man WILL only lie so that he will never know the truth? Of course not, yet that’s how you’ve twisted God’s word. On top of that, you’re making me repeat!: IF YOU’RE BELIEVING WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS, WHICH YOU IN YOUR SPIRITUAL BLINDNESS TO THE TRUTH, THEN HOW CAN YOU SAY NONE OF IT CAN BE TRUSTED? IF MOHAMMED DID NOT SAY THAT GOD’S FIRST WORD CANNOT BE KNOWN, THEN WHY ARE YOU BLASPHEMING BY CLAIMING THAT IT CAN? I ALSO REPEAT THIS QUESTION THAT YOU DID NOT ANSWER: WHY WOULD GOD SPEAK HIS WORDS TO BE WRITTEN DOWN ONLY FOR WHAT HE SAID TO BE FORGOTTEN? IS GOD STUPID? DOES GOD SPEAK AND HAVE HIS WORD WRITTEN DOWN FOR NOTHING? WHY ARE YOU MAKING ME REPEAT THE SAME QUESTIONS? ISN’T THAT SICK AND EVIL OF YOU, TO WASTE MY TIME AND THE TIME OF THE ENTIRE WORLD DOING THAT? YOU ARE BLASPHEMING AND NEGATING GOD’S WORD WITH YOUR MERE EMOTIONS AND MERE WORDS. YOU’RE WORDS DO NOT OVERRULE GOD’S! You are committing idolatry by placing Mohammed above God. You are committing the very idolatry that you Muslims accuse Christians of doing when they worship Christ. It is evil hypocrisy for you to do that.

      Once again, I repeat: I can take verses out of the Qur’an and also say, “See the Qur’an clearly is wrong.” Muslim: saying, “clearly” doesn’t make it clear. “Clear” is not an explanation. If more than half the planet doesn’t understand what the Hell is “clear” then what are you saying it’s clear for? You’re using your feelings as evidence. You using your feelings as evidence and catch words like “clear” is what is corrupt, not the word of God. And take out the word “clearly” of what you said, and what is it your claim says then? It is:

      This script clearly tells that interpolation in the Bible can happen,”

      Instead of saying “interpolation” and annoying the entire planet which doesn’t bother to use that word in the context you are using it in, how about just saying, “man’s ability to erase any evidence of what God’s word is can happen”. Speak plainly and clearly, so that neither you nor anyone else will be confused.

      “and it is not impossible because if it was, there would have been no need that God warns them against it.”

      The case is clear that you’ve imagined an imaginary warning and that you’ve blasphemed, and not because I said, “the case is clear”, but because I’ve shown that with logical arguments which your mind rejects from having memorized the Qur’an and false arguments against the Bible so that your mind rejects memorizing or reading anything else. You’ve been trained to think like a child, repeat like a parrot whenver you see, “Why don’t you believe the Bible”. Stop being lazy and read what people say. You are rude and evil to merely repeat without reasoning. Reasoning is not a sin, the Qur’an, even though it contradicts itself, makes it clear that you are to reason, not simply read a few words of someone merely because they disagree with you and to then just repeat whatever you were told is a good response. You don’t bother to understand what you are saying to see if it makes sense, you’re just ignoring the details and repeating chunks of words like an insane person.

      How would you like it if I simply repeated verses from the Bible to you and then said, “See it’s clear you’re wrong I’m right.” Wouldn’t you be annoyed and angry and hate that? Why then did you do that to me? It’s because you’re mind is badly corrupted and has been trained to think illogically, so it rejects the truth. You’re like a robot, a thing that doesn’t reason, but just says what it’s been programmed to say and do what it’s been programmed to do.

      You’ve repaid my patience and love with impatience, laziness and virtual insults. Any Muslims who makes stupid arguments like this will be ignored. From now on, you must give me the same respect and answer my arguments point for point with evidence, as I’ve done with yours. Stop assuming what evidence means and go look the word up in Arabic and English disctionaries. Assuming is for idiots. When you assume you insult and you remain ignorant.

      The case is clear and obvious now that more than two days have passed and probably one hundred Muslims have seen this page, that you’re logic and religion is what is corrupt, not God’s word.

  7. Peace of Mind
    April 28, 2010 at 2:26 PM

    http://www.answering-islam.org/Books/Zwemer/Christ/chap6.

    [comment locked by Knight (for reference purposes)]

    • April 28, 2010 at 2:33 PM

      That says “file not found”. And how would a single site answer all these questions? And are you even a Muslim?

  8. Life Guru
    May 27, 2010 at 12:50 AM

    O.K. it’s time to repost my Challenge :) Whenever a Muslim claims that he or she can verify everything in Islam, the skeptic obviously have issues with those claims. And they keep bringing up a settled matter of the authenticity of the Quranic script. In most cases it is nothing but an amateurish attempt to muddle the issue. So for this very reason I have devised a simple test or you may call it a challenge to out those who demand empirical ”proof”. From the dozen or so times that I have posted the same here in Y/A, so far the response of the skeptics is mostly silence :) The challenge/test is derived from the Quran and I have tried to water it down considerably for ease of verification, It may not force everyone to shout Eureka but it will definitely get you thinking. what more it will not even take more than a couple of hours to appreciate the challenge; Please go here a safe Google managed link :)

    [link removed]

    Once you are able to appreciate the challenge all your 20 questions and more will be answered :)

    • May 27, 2010 at 1:06 AM

      I skimmed your post and it had nothing to do with my questions. The reason no one replied to your Y.A. “question” or not seriously, is because your post is nonsense and has nothing to do with the truth. It’s a ridiculous scheme and excuse for not facing the truth. Magic, is not how you reply to questions on the truth. You couldn’t even answer a single question I posted and you expect me to read what you wrote, a magical formula? You wasted my time.

      Update 3:51 P.M. “Life Guru” (no he’s not arrogant or pretentious at all) sent me an email saying,

      On 5/27/2010 8:54 AM, First Last wrote:

      There is no magic or even a hint of magic, this is the verifiable reality, verifiable with empirical data and not some subjective mumbo jumbo. The question is why are you afraid to take up the challenge. All you have to do is attampt it and when you have developed a feel for the challenge, go ahead and recruit an army of volunteers to start writing a 80,000 word book that would mirror the Quran complete with checksums and post it. We all will shutup forever. Untill then there is no point in looking at whatever you are peddling.

      Mr reply here:

      “First Last” sounds like you are calling yourself “The First and the Last”, or are you agreeing with Christ when he said the first will be last and last first? Which is it?

      “Untill then there is no point in looking at whatever you are peddling.”

      Oh: you didn’t bother to even read what the questions were, let alone answer one, so how can you call me the fearful one and say I’m “peddling” anything, libeling moron? And idiot: why would you risk making a up a lie that could easily be shown false, since it’s based on your assuming? You’re an idiot, truly man, what a fool you are. You can’t be bothered to read what I said and yet want me to read a “reply” then, Mr. I Call Everyone Afraid Who Doesn’t Read Whatever I Claim Is A Reply Too Whatever They Wrote Even Though I Was Too Afraid To Read What They Wrote.

      And it’s spelled “until” not “untill” if you didn’t merely typo.

      Stop wasting my time childish hypocrite.

  9. September 7, 2010 at 7:07 PM

    A hypocrite Muslim whose email is A.E.B.NightShade@gmx.com, made an evil comment to me on my http://wwiii.tk post, and I will show all you Muslims what he said to me:

    “Very good all in all, but you’ve made a few fundamental errors.”

    First of all, you misunderstand Muslims and Islamic extremism; terrorism is more or less a perceived way of self-defending themselves against America and its wars. Let’s face it, America loves interfering with other people’s business.”

    No, terrorism is taught in the quran. The Bible forbids me to get into arguments of ignorance, so I won’t argue what you can easily learn for yourself, and if you don’t accept what you learn, you’re deluded and biased.

    “After wars such as the Lebanon War and the Gulf War, anti-American sentiment increased drastically.”

    I already know the us gov is evil in general, it’s already written all over in my journal about their evils: Failed States USA or some title like that. My last entry is on national geographic, a us based evolutionist atheist propaganda organization, they and other evolutionist groups in the us spread immorality throughout the usa, corrupting theists by giving them the idea, “Well, if there is no God, then we won’t be punished for doing evil”.

    “The former was the main motive behind 9/11. Israel, after all, is supported by America as it ravages Palestine and Lebanon.”

    Israel is supported by false Christian morons and those who hate Arabs, and possibly who hate Jews too and secret want to see them both kill each other to free up the middle east for whites. Also consider the liberals who are pro-depopulation: they wan’t everyone dead and so will do whatever provokes people to hostility. I even have two atheist stalkers who at times have pretended to be Christian, and I had another atheist one for a while, a woman, who also pretended.

    “Furthermore, corrupt and brutal dictatorships like Egypt and Saudi Arabia.”

    That’s an incomplete sentence there. Why didn’t you mention Iran and Iraq? The whole middle east is filled with brutal leaders, even Israel has oppressors, the Israeli government owns most of the land will hardly sell any of it and uses much of the Negev for military training.

    “All these are motives for terrorism against the West.”

    You’re over simplifying and generalizing you hypocrite with a double standard: people who are “losers” in life will take up any cause in which they have power. Why do you think there are terrible problems with gangs in America? Do they get labeled as terrorists even though they are? No, because everyone knows it’s not about terrorism, it’s about them living in a poor area and joining whatever group they happened to become friendliest and so that they won’t be stuck being poor but might become rich through selling drugs. Like the Bible says, “The love of money is the root of all evil”, not literally “all”, but figuratively, most evil. Just look how crazy the rich of the world act: they aren’t satisfied even with billions of dollars, they don’t use it to make cities of their own (except possibly hidden underground ones to escape to in war), instead they use it to manipulate what already exists and are planning to make the world entirely technology primitive so they can rule over us like gods, restricting higher technology to themselves. I’m sure they want to see everyone become like the Amish, so that we are all easy to take advantage of.

    “You noted well that Muslims are rich enough to ruin America (though I doubt America can’t defend itself economically); the truth is that they don’t wish America harm over its religion, they wish it harm over its foreign policies. You need to stop listening to what propaganda is telling you.”

    You’re over simplifying what goes through peoples’ minds: how many very handsome Muslims or Arab men do you know, or women, who care about harming America? How many do you see putting themselves in harm’s way? How many people in little suicide cults do you find are beautiful? None: because such people seek to preserve their lives, and they are all addicts, and Paris Hilton is one of the most obvious examples.

    “As for what you said about Hinduism, I felt that touch me, particularly because I’m a Muslim and people are always insulting Islam. I must tell you that you have no right to say anything about any religion,”

    You are very ignorant, first of all those two sentences shouldn’t be separate, second: you do know Hindus and Muslims are always fighting in India, and between Pakistan and India? You can find the arguing between them on websites too, and do you go and tell them not to argue? Also, you don’t know the quran, because it says to persecute idolators. So, you are a vain hypocrite, and either an apostate Muslim, whom other Muslims would kill, and they kill “soft Muslims” all the time, killing each other more than people of other religions. You’re very hypocritical and ignorant of what goes on around you, it’s you who are gullible, and simplistic, both of which the Bible forbid.

    Further, who made you my God to tell me what my spiritual rights are? And how deeply evil are you to tell me, that even as someone who is a theologist, and no shallow one, and no new one, that I may not SPEAK ANYTHING ABOUT ANY RELIGION, AND ON TOP OF THAT, MY OWN: CHRISTIANITY!? Are you not extremely stupid and vain, and when you yourself have just “said things” about religion here? You are like the false Christians, who take Jesus out of context when he said, “Don’t judge,” and then arbitrarily and hypocritically go around commanding, as if they are God, telling someone to not judge when they personally dislike their judgments, or saying it to all, as if to do so ISN’T JUDGING ITSELF, WHEN IT CLEARLY IS EXPRESSING THEIR JUDGMENT OVER WHAT THEY DIDN’T LIKE HEARD. And how evil are you, deeply evil, to tell me not to speak about the morality of any religion, when it is clearly evil? WHO GAVE YOU THE RIGHT, TO TELL A PERSON: YOU MAY NOT POINT OUT THAT IT IS EVIL FOR A SATANIST TO TEACH THAT IT IS RIGHT OR GOOD TO DO AS THEY WILL, INCLUDING MURDER? So you defend any kind of Satanism too, but when it comes to God who from the very first verse in the Bible REQUIRES JUDGMENT TO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE READING AND IF IT IS TRUE AND WHO IT CAME FROM, you take his place and forbid anyone but those who love Islam to judge. And must I keep repeating this on every page of my journal? Must I post this every day? Shame on you.

    “as whatever people say it means; you have absolutely no right to generalize.”

    Again, who made you God? It’s not okay for me to obey my religion and common sense when generalizing is commanded or logical, but you have the right to generalize ALL of American’s as being supporters of Israel and for you to generalize terrorist torturers, rapists, thieves, liars and abusers and murderers of every child as “defenders AGAINST a terrorist government” you extremely evil hypocrite, you justifier and excuse-maker of criminals? You sure love contradicting yourself for someone who pretends to care about truth.

    What right, demon, do you have to say, “It’s okay for Muslims to terrorize other Muslims and sacrifice, sexually abuse, and torture, children like they were dirt and sex slaves”? So it’s okay for you to say all Muslim American’s support Israel, but not for me to make generalizations you demented demon? Why is it good for you to generalize like you’ve done here, and not me? You are a blasphemer. Stop taking God’s place hypocrite judge, and stop worshiping your heart, which is corrupt. Do not make laws for me that negate God’s. You have no right to tell me I cannot use a figure of speech, or a metaphor: you are truly ignorant and deluded, lacking common sense.

    “That’s just [foul sexual word deleted by Knight] up.”

    No demon: you are. Is using sexually immoral language a holy, good, and righteous thing? What about your expressing smug disgust, does that magically make you right and me wrong? How moronic, and deeply evil, and deeply hypocritical are you, to tell me not to offend the religions of others, but you not only offend mine by telling me not to judge ANY religion, but then using what is considered offensive and crude language according to the Bible? And moron” how do you not even know that that language offends people of other religions, including Islam? Where do you live, a cave, and some moron Muslim handed you a laptop to start babbling away on to annoying people? Are you drunk? Are you possessed?

    And look at how arbitrary your logic is: I can’t say anything about religion, but so then how do I criticize anyone who is religious, who acts out of religious motives? So moron, you can’t criticize anyone who is in government who oppresses because he believes he’s obeying God or some god when he does, or that he is a god or whose way of life is his religion: to acquire money and the most advanced technology and keep the human population low in order to preserve non-human things.

    You call yourself a Muslim yet allow filth to come out of your mouth, and on top of that: with a self-righteous attitude! What a demon you are. Now I will no longer read anything you have to say unless it is clear you’ve repented of being an immoral idolater. Grow up, stop being a lazy evil hypocrite, stop wasting my time, stop wasting the world’s time, and get a life you inciter of violence.

    I am posting what you said in the 20questions.tk section to show everyone another example of a “Muslim”, why they can’t argue when it comes to religion: they are all like you: deliberately ignorant judges. By the way hypocrite, it’s against the law to harass like you’ve harassed me and not to show your real name, and why are you hiding your name coward? Does Allah say, “Be a troll”? If so, that’s one sick moon god you have.

    You are ignored you false teacher and waste of life: the only attention God will give you after Judgment Day, is to torture you in Hell with hatred for you, unless you obey Christ, your God, who said, “Stop judging by mere appearances and make a right judgment!”

  10. Syed Qamar Abbas
    December 8, 2010 at 9:59 AM

    There is no question regarding any possibility of any one of being son of God. In holy Quran it is clearly said by God in Sura Towheed. Please read its translation carefully. More over we accept that Bible is also from God, as Quran, but now a days, what we find is a manipulated translation of it.

    • November 8, 2011 at 9:33 AM

      Because you said so, and because you feel so. But your thoughts and your feelings are not what determines what is true and what is real.

  11. Murtuza Jafri
    June 20, 2011 at 7:50 PM

    Can you explain the trinity? That is the only question that I need to ask a christian. You can’t explain it. And if god is all powerful, why does he need three different forms? Also, if Jesus is god, and the jews killed Jesus, wouldn’t that make those jews more powerful than God? Honestly, what are you bringing God down to?

    • June 21, 2011 at 8:53 AM

      “Can you explain the trinity? That is the only question that I need to ask a christian. You can’t explain it.”

      Thanks for answering for me. And you’re obviously no truth-seeker with behavior like that, and when any one of intelligence could look up the answer on a non-censored search engine. You’re a super moron and an ignoramus. Listen to Jesus next time: “Do to others as you would have them do to you,” not “Pretend to want to know the answer to a question from those you hate but in your pride answer for them.” Listen to God: He who answers before listening–that is his folly and his shame. – Proverbs 18:13

      I allowed your comment to be posted because it shows what a typical Muslim is like: arrogant, unwilling to learn, a brainwashed member of a cult who worships his heart and a man while pretending he/she really loves God. I didn’t bother reading the rest of your comment being that you clearly aren’t willing to learn, and ignored all the arguments that clearly refute your cult, including the good deeds of true Christians (how convenient you ignore that and the endless savage behavior of Muslims, inculding bombing their own people and children, using them like cheap bullets) and instead, like a typical Muslim weasel, switched subjects to a very old defeated argument (which shows what a dishonest ignoramus you are), babbling about the Trinity, a subject I’ve already written about repeatedly in my journal, moron. So, you’ve lied.

    • November 8, 2011 at 9:31 AM

      “Can you explain the trinity? That is the only question that I need to ask a christian.” Do you know what a search engine is? Did you notice there is also one on this journal? Did you ever think to pray to God, “Help me to understand the Trinity if, in my pride and small human brain that is no where near as perfect and great as yours oh God, is not understanding it correctly?” That is all you need to ask a Muslim, because Muslims are arrogant and always assume. Type, “trinity” and “eternian” into google, or just copy and paste it Mr. “I don’t have a mouth to ask questions with, or a pure heart to ask a question sincerely without presumption.” Should have known better since the Quran even says humans are so evil that God will not even come close to them. Yet you are prideful and pretend to be pure.

  12. Eugene Teo
    November 8, 2011 at 3:12 AM

    How in the surah 3:45-47 of the Quran did you derived to the understanding and translation that Jesus is God.
    You said no Muslim can truthfully say the Bible and Quran can agree on the most important things… Well, I do agree with since the Bible now is corrupted that you do not know what was there and what was not originally there.
    No Books from Allah is superior to the other. In the articles of faith, one of it is to believe in all the Books from Allah. Since the rest of the Books except the Quran is corrupted, we can not any longer rely on its contents.
    If you say the Bible is not corrupted, then pls explain why are there do many different versions of the Bible. And some bibles have not only differred slightly from the other but even some chapters are shortage.

    • November 8, 2011 at 9:29 AM

      Where did I say it says he is God? Second, what is your evidence the Bible is corrupted when I’ve shown with my rhetorical questions and the archeology links, which no doubt you didn’t even bother to read (let alone read the Bible carefully like a scholar, are you an expert in a day, or because you listened to people repeating the same things to you all day without doing careful study to see if they were right? None.

      And are you an expert if you merely listen to a teacher of engineering simply telling you how things work and you never finding out yourself? No you’re not, but I can tell that is how you think and that you didn’t bother doing careful study, because even atheists who’ve done archeological research on the Bible have admitted it’s historically accurate. You are merely repeating propaganda, lies and have been brainwashed. Here is some advice for you, learn the logical fallacies of the Greek’s to break your brainwashing, atheists have put up logical fallacy lists, and though they do that to make it appear as if they are the wise ones, that doesn’t matter, read them. Further, read the Bible too, carefully, in whatever languages you can understand it. Further, I’ve shown Muslim attacks and the Quran’s author to be irrational, you, instead of acknowledging the flaws, simply, because you are brainwashed, pretend you never even saw them and they simply don’t count, because, as you keep repeating in your head, “Bible corrupt, Bible corrupt, Bible corrupt.” Break out of that. Are you a robot, or an insane child? You can also pray, “God, though I don’t believe I am blind to the truth about you, and though I think I truly love you, if it is true that I don’t, so that I will be perfectly pleasing to you, open my eyes and show me any unjust hatred in my heart.” Do you care about the truth, or just about pleasing your friends or your traditions? Do not be like the Pharisees, whom Jesus condemned, and do not simply pick and choose what in the Bible you will believe merely because it doesn’t match your Quran, which historical records show is not a perfect book that was preserved perfectly. Study and pray.

  13. Aitcho
    January 30, 2012 at 11:32 PM

    A Mis-translation of the Quran – The Quran originally used the phrase “O Isa! I will make you dead and raise you to Myself” in Surah 3:55….but from 1935 onwards, the translators changed the word “dead” to “sleep” so that the Quran wouldn’t contradict the Islamic doctrine that Jesus didn’t die. It is far worse now because the english translation of the Quran doesn’t even have the word “sleep” in it (see http://quran.com/3/55 which reads “O Jesus, indeed I will take you and raise you….” when it should read “O Jesus, indeed I will make you dead and raise you….” – check the Quran in Arabic if you like). If an honest person reads the Quran in Arabic, the Quran clearly teaches in Surah 3:55 that Jesus died and was raised from the dead. Whilst the Bible is being mis-translated today, the Quran is also being mis-translated by “not-so-honest” clerics and sheiks.

    Resurrection Of Jesus Isn’t In The Future – Many Muslims like to deny the death and resurrection of Jesus because they believe that it is still in the future. Surah 19:33 states how Jesus died and was raised from the dead and following on in v.34, it states that it is “a statement of truth”. Muslims try to make out that this verse is a future event when Christ will return a 2nd time and be raised then, but there is a same phrase a few verses beforehand in Surah 19:15 about John the Baptist dying which all Muslims believe happened 2,000 years ago, and so an honest Muslim should read the phrase about Jesus dying in v.33 as happening 2,000 years ago as well. Hence, Jesus has died AND been raised from the dead (exactly as the Holy Bible also teaches in 1 Cor 15:3-4).

    The Main Difference Between “Allah in the Quran” and “God in Holy Bible” – Whilst the Quran talks of Jesus dying and being raised from the dead (as I mentioned above), it fails to give the full story as to why God did it – but in the Holy Bible, we are told why. The Quran also says that Allah forgives sins, but Allah doesn’t pays for our sin – no payment for sin means that there is no justice (ie. the sinner who is forgiven by Allah stills gets away with doing sin and is not punished). Whereas the Holy Bible explains that God not only forgives us for our sins, but also atones (ie. covers/pays/redeems) for our sins by dying in our place as our substitute (ie. we do the sinning, but God does the dying). Hence, God in the Holy Bible not only forgives us, but also covers/pays/redeems us from our sin by the shed blood of Jesus Christ (Ephesians 1:7-10)…..see, God in the Holy Bible is both forgiving and just (this is something that Allah cannot do) and so it is certain that the Muslim “Allah” and the Christian “God” are not the same (contrary to what the Quran says in Surah 29:46). We can receive this redemption by believing in Jesus Christ to pay for our sins on the cross and we can receive everlasting life as a result (John 3:16).

    Ephesians 1:7: In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;

    John 3:16: For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    1 Cor 15:3-4: For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:

  14. Aitcho
    January 31, 2012 at 7:38 AM

    The Trinity is explained thus:

    1. using finite terms (like us): 1 + 1 + 1 = 3
    2. using infinite terms (like God): infinite + infinite + infinite = infinite

    No 2 shows that the Godhead with 3 persons (comprising the Father, Son and Holy Spirit) is just as equal as each person of the Godhead on their own….putting it another way, there is no diminishing God whether you look at each person of the Godhead individually or as a whole.

    If you don’t understand this, then accept that your finite mind cannot grasp an infinite God.

  15. Mohamed
    June 9, 2012 at 1:22 AM

    So when lot (may Allah be pleased with him) had sex with his two daughters whilst intoxicated what was the lesson? Don’t drink which u still do and u still drinl their was no lesson and when david killed a man and took his wife and jacob beat up god? In my religion these people are pious and not criminals why do u hold ur self blind to deceit when muhammad (saw) name was clearly in the bible which was messed and tampered with crazily to remove any evidence of his coming yet they still couldn’t?

    • June 9, 2012 at 7:10 AM

      You are yet more evidence Muslims are part of a confused and stupid cult. You said,

      “So when lot (may Allah be pleased with him) had sex with his two daughters whilst intoxicated what was the lesson?”

      This is a grammatically nonsensical sentence, even if you had said, “So it pleased your God for lot to sin” it would have been obvious stupid since the Quran says the Bible is God’s word. You’ve failed there, badly. It’s typical of Muslims to fail when attacking Christians, as you already could see from this page.

      “and jacob beat up god?” another bad sentence, and shameful, since you didn’t bother reading the Bible in that attack, obviously. The Bible wisely says to avoid arguments of ignorance, and you’re obviously someone who presumes (which is stupid in any culture and which the Bible also teaches not to do), so, the rest of your comment is unread. May God save you.

  16. July 30, 2012 at 4:12 PM

    Wow. Reading one of the links you’ve posted in this blogpost (http://www.redicecreations.com/specialreports/2006/04apr/catholicislam.html) I was amazed, and almost angered by the fact that it was the pope who created such a vile religion just so that he could bring on his anti-Semitic plans. This somehow created a distrust in my heart for Roman Catholicism. This is my story:

    I am currently a victim of the oppression and persecution of Muslim majorities in an Islamic country. Being born in the Islamic country of Malaysia, and at the same time having a Muslim father has made me a victim of religious oppressions. I wish not to pronounce the word “hate”, but that is what I have felt for the religion of Islam, and just recently towards Roman Catholicism with what the article has exposed. I remember being forced to pray according to the Islamic way, forced to study Arabic, being punished and humiliated for not being able to write the Arabic script properly or memorize quranic passages. Right now I am living the deepest shit of my life: due to the nature of Muslims wasting their money and not caring for their child’s education and nutrition, my father had spent all his fortunes which has lead to my demise – halfway through my 20’s and unable to complete my studies and had to work shitty jobs just to survive. My only way out of this “islamic” way of life is through seeking asylum in another country; and before I could do so I have to accumulate lots of money to buy myself a flight ticket.

    Some people might say that the article was made up, but I do know that it is somehow telling the truth. I have studied the quran extensively, and did many researches including how islam was heavily influenced by catholicism, origins of the Arabic script (Syro-Aramaic) and how the Syro-Aramaic readings of quranic passages is actually similar to passages in the gospels.

    Basically, all I have to say is that although I still have respect for the Christ for his compassionate and loving character, I do not trust both Roman Catholics and Muslims. Both are the vile religions that will bring demise to mankind. From today onwards not only the religion of Islam shall be exposed by me but also the religion of Roman Catholicism. Only those who practiced pure “Christ-Consciousness” shall be spared from being labelled a vile being. Thank you for posting up such article.

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