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In Response to Frances Kelly’s Request To Receive an Opinion on Channeling

Channeling is forbidden by the Bible, it is the same as trying to speak with the dead, whether the person channeling knows it or not. They are opening themselves up for communication from a demon, and demons are all liars, everyone except Satanists and those as deluded as them know that demons, are, by definition, evil beings.

There is no evidence that any channeler has ever channeled an alien, all the evidence suggests that they are either lying or a demon is speaking through them, as the things that come out of their mouth is always wrong in some way, and always fits a certain type of communication style, that is the person supposedly being channeled always claims (and they are always things that anyone could make up, like about Atlantis) that what it is saying is fact, never opinion. For example, something lie this, “The Atlanteans lived 10,000 years ago but destroyed themselves in their carelessness), and that is the sign of a prideful liar. I’m not saying that people must arbitrarily saying, “This is my opinion” but I’ve heard and read supposedly channeled aliens and dead humans, and there is always something that goes against the Bible. Why isn’t there one single spirit that agrees with the Bible? If you claim it’s because they find out it’s wrong, well then why don’t any say, “I was a former Christian and learned this part of the Bible was wrong.” No, it’s always, “Go for the kill” so to speak, in other words, get the lie out as fast as you can. And the lack of sophistication also shows that the beings speaking are careless about the truth (not bothering to be clever about it like saying that they were a former Christian or that they also had a Bible on their planet that turned out to be false and that they learned their lesson). This is evidence of low intelligence or a lack of concern for the truth, of a personality that just goes about sloppily bashing the truth as if it were a joke. On the other hand it could be that the reason we only hear stupid spirits that lack sophistication is because God only allows the stupid ones to possess a person or speak through them. The reason for that may be that if more clever spirits were allowed to use a person to speak, that the deception would make it more difficult for people in general to tell the truth from a lie, a level of difficulty that God doesn’t want the world in general to have to deal with for whatever reason.

Evidence of God or at least some superior being imposing a limit on what these spirits can do is that it’s known they can sometimes possess people and do things that humans are not able to do naturally: manipulating objects without touching them, speak in languages not known to the person being possessed, do things that are so painful that it’s unlikely that even an insane person would do them (like repeatedly biting on things that cause teeth to immediately break off or scratching things with your fingers so that your nails ripped off), floating, saying things that couldn’t be known without having been spied on or seeing and hearing a person’s memories, making smells seemingly out of no where (probably by transmuting the particulates in the air into some other form that smells),  changing the temperature of the air or an object, making or projecting images like of an object or possibly of some creature (which may be a demon or part of a demon itself rather than a projection or temporary manipulation of matter), making vocalizations or music on audio recordings that were apparently directly imprinted onto the recording, making images directly onto video recordings so that the images couldn’t have been seen by anyone, causing wounds that don’t get infected, and that can remain opened for long periods of times and bleed greatly without the person they’ve wounded, dying (stigmata), HOWEVER, that these powerful spirits aren’t doing this whenever they want, and let us know now and then that they don’t like to hear or see anything that is strongly related to God (for example a certain famous prophet who commanded that his followers randomly terrorize non-believers, and that command is recorded in their holy book) was said to go beserk when he saw crosses, suggests that it’s God who is limiting them. And note that no one has ever heard of a spirit being saying, “Stop talking about Shiva! I don’t want to hear about Zeus!” to someone trying to cast them out using their names, but only throwing fits when hearing something like, “In the name of Jesus,” or verses from the Bible, and so on. Though God seems to have limited the kinds of spirits that can possess people, he has allowed much great deception in the form of misleading people as to what the true religion is (as opposed to allowing any supposed alien or dead human to teach that there is no God). For example implying that no one goes to heaven but just reincarnates or reincarnates a certain amount of times then goes to Heaven, or that Catholicism is the true religion (a few times Catholics or people that could be persuaded to become Catholics have seen or at least claimed to have seen visions of angels fighting or while possessed, supposedly hate to be touched with holy water, and the holy water concept is strongly associated with the Catholic religion). You never, not even in movies, see a possessed person being exorcised by an Episcopalian priest, a Mormon, or Baptist, it’s always, suspiciously, a Catholic, and since the New Age, by sorcerers/witches and or mediums. The malicious intent of the demons is also evident by their choice of what they throw fits over with regards to who and how they are repelled: Catholic priests, mediums, and witches. Why these three? Here is a psychological analysis again:

1) Catholic doctrine and the Bible forbid channeling or consulting demons, casting spells, and even fortune-telling. And demons give us the impression that Catholics can repel them, but not other types of groups that many consider Christians, whether considering them to be hypocritical Christians or not. And a careful study of a certain chapter in Revelation indicates that God considers the Catholics church to be the “whore that rides the beast” who is “drunk with the blood of the saints”. In other words God considers them to be unfaithful, both physically and spiritually adulterous (including not being faithful to God) and to be responsible for the deaths of a great many true Christians. The clue is the reference to the city on “seven hills” in this chapter (Rome is the only known city on seven hills with great influence of the world). Now if you suppose that Satan is a very malicious liar, and a clever one as the Bible teaches he is, then it’s makes sense as to why he would want to give the appearance that one “Christian” group (that God took the time to write about as being the worst on Earth), as being the only Christians powerful enough to stop him, or that even have a chance (Catholic priests have a high failure rate of getting rid of demons, and as far as the evidences shows, they don’t actually get rid of any demons, but rather the demons leave on their own, and according to the Bible, possess the same person again, and probably sometimes when their are no priests around or anyone to notice the possession, (like hidden abuse)).

2) Demons give the impression that mediums and witches can make them leave, at least in the mass media (for example no medium has ever been shown being attacked by a demon, a ghost investigator was recently attacked/possessed, supposedly, and it can be seen on youtube, but there was no indication that he was a medium or a witch that I knew of). Now what makes no sense about that, is that, again, traditional and official Catholic doctrine teaches that mediums and witches are evil and are under the persuasion of Satan, and if Satan, then the rest of the disobedient angels/demons, as Satan is their leader. The Bible also implies this.

Notice the polar opposites: Catholics, supposedly the only true Christians or rather only ones who will make it to Heaven and live forever in peace, and the mediums and witches, mediums who are said to channel demons, and it’s implied that witches, even if they don’t know it, rely on Satan/demons to accomplish their magic. Do you notice the irony, or the joke of this “Trickster”, this comedian, this mocker, called Satan?:

He’s simultaneously promoting the Catholic denomination, which at least in the opinion of 50+ million Christians is the most hated by God of of all Christian cults and the mediums and witches, whom Satan works and speaks through, and more ironic, is that Satan often uses mediums to console those who are tormented over the loss off someone they loved. In other words Satan is making it look like the worst cult on Earth is the true religion while causing great confusion also by making it look like Catholicism is completely wrong, by putting mediums and witches in a good light. And this makes the Bible look wrong to those WHO KNOW that the Bible forbids speaking to the dead and witchcraft, and which implies that the Catholic denomination prevents lasting peace.

Is what I’ve said just ranting? If so, then show the flaw or flaws in my logic. Note: simply telling me that the Bible is false is not evidence of anything, let alone scientific evidence, also showing any supposed evidence that it is won’t be accepted by me, since I’ve already examined it all, and though I’m not a professional biologist or physicist or archeologist, I don’t need to be anymore than any who disbelieves the Bible needs to be in order to “know” it’s not true, rather we can read the research of those who are and examine their trustworthiness in various ways to know if they are telling the truth, or if their research makes sense. And for those of you who think, “Well if you won’t except the only evidence that the Bible is false then you’re preventing anyone from showing your reasoning is false”, that’s wrong, because you can view my belief in the Bible as true as a hypothesis that it is true, and then look for any flaw or flaws in my exposition based on that hypothesis.

For example, if someone wouldn’t accept that the basic evidence for macro-evolution were true, and wrote a exposition based on it, that wouldn’t prevent me from showing that their exposition was wrong (if it were long enough) being that flaws are inevitable in any teaching based on a lie, especially a great amount of lies as many think the Bible is.

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  1. Frances
    November 25, 2009 at 9:40 PM

    Thank you so much for taking the time to do this, maybe our views differ a little bit but thats ok.. I would say to you that i definatley believe there can be white witches, think of the old religions, good souls that are not christian.. Think native american indian… Tibetan monks.. & channeled information straight from the realm of angels & god its been documented many times. You are so right about malevolent beings & to be honest it almost puts me off but they should be sent to where they belong

    • November 26, 2009 at 6:46 AM

      Hi, thanks for taking the time to comment (and not insult me). I think people often see “white witches” as harmless or good because of that very term applied to them, which conjures up a fairy-tale like image of a pure and “magical” (including in the figurative sense) person, someone who is delightful, for example, think of the “good” witches of the Harry Potter series. By “white witch” you mean a witch that doesn’t try and use magic to harm anyone. However, what really is the definition of a white witch beyond that? Some supposed white witches see nothing wrong in trying to manipulate a person’s will, similar to how many accuse Christians of trying to force their religion on others. Also, by definition, witches do not rely on God to accomplish what they want (either through obeying his laws, doing good deeds, or anything), and when they try and use supernatural forces, they are trying to perform “magic”. Some might call it “magick
      to distinguish it from “magic tricks”. So just the mere act of doing something with disregard for God, is seen as a sin by him, rather than there being something special about simply trying to harness invisible forces. However when trying to harness the power of a spiritual being like a demon, that God hates much more being that demons are responsible for keeping the world in perpetual confusion and hatred, including towards God, even attacking babies and children.

      As for the native americans, not all were as peaceful as it seemed: see http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v3/n2/noble-savage Another example is here: http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/32368/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0 It’s about the Yanomami tribe, also called Yanomamo. Many of the married men beat their wives, under the pretense that it’s a sign of love. Not all people are equally good or bad, but my point is to be careful that you haven’t been deceived into believing any myths, the so called “Noble Savage” myth. As for Tibetan monks, watch these videos:




      Ask yourself, “Why would the Chinese government severely assault some “harmless” Tibetan Buddhist monks if they Chinese government accepts Buddhism as the most valid of religions?” Though atheists are highly irrational when it comes to their understanding and teaching of religion, the ones who accept Buddhism as peaceful wouldn’t in mass just attack “peaceful” monks for no logical reason. From what those videos above show, many of those monks deserved their beatings from the Chinese troops and worse, but they should have been given fair trails before being beaten.

      What you personally view as good differs from what a Calvinist Baptist and Presbyterian would view as good, because they are using the laws of the Bible as their standard of right from wrong. A Catholic would also have a different view since they use “Catholic Tradition” as a guide equal to the Bible to determine right from wrong, The Jehovah’s Witnesses rely on one specific Bible translation (theirs), or mainly as their guide of right from wrong, the Mormons rely on the Book of Mormon as their main guide, and so on. So when you say good or bad, it’s relative to your beliefs. However, that doesn’t mean there is no definite good or evil, if there weren’t then anyone’s talk about what is good or bad, is useless, and debating or arguing about it is absolutely useless, and anyone’s laws are based merely on feelings, and if everyone believed that, this world would be in danger of great crimes, probably leading to the world’s extinction. Though some might claim that atheists and agnostics are an example that that is not true, it’s a fact that atheists as a group have killed at least 150,000,000 people, from babies to adults, in the past 100 years, and from the record of “human rights” violations of atheist dominated countries, it shows no sign of getting any better in the long run (if they were to remain in power). Also, it’s obvious that pressure from mainly Christian countries or ones with a large population of Christians, like the USA, Britain, France, South Korea, Australia, and New Zealand, forces the atheists ones to follow the same rules, though crudely, in order to maintain good trade relations. Buddhist ones like Japan are also persuasive, though as those videos I showed you reveal, Buddhism is far from a good religion. They and the atheists and agnostics who endorse them, seem to forget, not surprising to me, Buddhisms most Christian-like teachings, supposedly from Buddha:

      “Do not accept any of my words on faith,
      Believing them just because I said them.
      Be like an analyst buying gold, who cuts, burns,
      And critically examines his product for authenticity.
      Only accept what passes the test [which can be done]
      by proving them to be useful and beneficial in your life.”

      and,

      “Do not accept anything on (mere) hearsay — (thinking that “thus have we heard it for a long time”).

      Do not accept anything by mere tradition — (thinking that it has thus been handed down through many generations).

      Do not accept anything on account of mere rumors — (by believing what others say without any investigation).

      Do not accept anything just because it accords with your scriptures.

      Do not accept anything by mere suppositions.

      Do not accept anything by mere inference.

      Do not accept anything by merely considering the reasons.

      Do not accept anything merely because it agrees with your pre-conceived notions.

      Do not accept anything merely because it seems acceptable — (thinking that as the speaker seems to be a good person his words should be accepted).

      Do not accept anything thinking that because the ascetic is respected by us, that “therefore it is right to accept his word”.

      Concerning where demons belong – God has permitted them to live here, in this universe. He hasn’t commanded them to live in Hell, though the Bible seems to say he has confined some there, probably because they are very violent, and would interfere with God’s timetable. I’m sure God forbade them to violate anyone’s privacy, but no doubt they don’t listen to that anymore than they listen to the commandments, but in the end, they’ll be punished for it.

  2. April
    November 27, 2009 at 4:27 AM

    This is just scary. You’re crazy. I hope God can forgive you for your sins brother. Jesus would be ashamed of your anger and hatred. I hope God helps to heal your mind.

    • December 15, 2009 at 9:54 AM

      “Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell.” – Matthew 10:28

      “the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars—their place will be in the fiery lake of burning sulfur. This is the second death.” – Revelation 21:8

      “Anyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life in him.” – 1 John 3:15

      “Love your neighbor as yourself” doesn’t mean “Make stupid insults you can’t back up.”

      Stop being a hateful moronic hypocrite and coward.

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